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> Overall the consumer segment is completely neglected, companies don't care about end users in the current market conditions. Mirroring trends throughout the

> Overall the consumer segment is completely neglected, companies don't care about end users in the current market conditions. Mirroring trends throughout the entire economy (not just RAM and other inputs for AI). Everyone is chasing the top 10% or higher of the K-shaped economy for all goods and services, servicing everyone else isn't seen as being worth the investment. This will just keep getting worse and worse everywhere for everything as long as we allow income inequality to keep exploding, which seems to be the plan.

dendrite9 9d ago
I wonder how this plays out with automotive? Seems like it could get messy, especially if automotive rated parts are decided to not be worth the premium.
dingaling 9d ago
"companies don't care about end users in the current market conditions." Because the end users keep rushing to use the megacorps' latest AI models, weaving them into their work and life. So the megacorps keep locking in contracts to build more compute. If you use LLMs, you're responsible for this, there's no way to pass the buck. "I only use it as a companion for learning about history" - it's still your fault. "I only use it to help guide my solitions, not for vibecoding" - it's still your fault.
- Sabinus 9d ago
  If you want an industry to act in a certain way you legislate for it, not wag fingers at consumers buying things. "If you want cheaper consumer devices we all need to individually stop using AI" is not useful or realistic.
azan_ 9d ago
And how do you think it will work? Do you really believe that once competition to serve top 10% get really fierce, no company will try to capture the remaining 90%?
- georgemcbay 9d ago
  > Do you really believe that once competition to serve top 10% get really fierce, no company will try to capture the remaining 90%? They'd try it if we weren't living in an age of persistent supply chain problems across every industry. But sadly we have lived in that world since 2020. Good luck trying to capture the low-end of any market when you are competing with those serving the high-end for whatever your inputs are.
N_Lens 9d ago
The plan is to eject from the bottom 90% of humans, discarding them like a rocket’s booster stage (this isn’t something I agree with, just a humorous take).

dendrite9 9d ago

I wonder how this plays out with automotive? Seems like it could get messy, especially if automotive rated parts are decided to not be worth the premium.

dingaling 9d ago

"companies don't care about end users in the current market conditions." Because the end users keep rushing to use the megacorps' latest AI models, weaving them into their work and life. So the megacorps keep locking in contracts to build more compute. If you use LLMs, you're responsible for this, there's no way to pass the buck. "I only use it as a companion for learning about history" - it's still your fault. "I only use it to help guide my solitions, not for vibecoding" - it's still your fault.

Sabinus 9d ago
If you want an industry to act in a certain way you legislate for it, not wag fingers at consumers buying things. "If you want cheaper consumer devices we all need to individually stop using AI" is not useful or realistic.

azan_ 9d ago

And how do you think it will work? Do you really believe that once competition to serve top 10% get really fierce, no company will try to capture the remaining 90%?

georgemcbay 9d ago
> Do you really believe that once competition to serve top 10% get really fierce, no company will try to capture the remaining 90%? They'd try it if we weren't living in an age of persistent supply chain problems across every industry. But sadly we have lived in that world since 2020. Good luck trying to capture the low-end of any market when you are competing with those serving the high-end for whatever your inputs are.

N_Lens 9d ago

The plan is to eject from the bottom 90% of humans, discarding them like a rocket’s booster stage (this isn’t something I agree with, just a humorous take).