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I would hope they have some feature for automatic backup to your phone over bluetooth or such today.

by jimmaswell 15d ago

jeffbee 15d ago
WiFi is a little faster I guess? In the primitive days people used the EyeFi.
- jimmaswell 15d ago
  You would often not have wifi available, and you wouldn't want to have to type in wifi passwords to your camera all the time. But your phone will almost always be nearby and persistent bluetooth is easy.
  - toast0 15d ago
    Wifi between your camera and the phone. Or your camera and a laptop in your bag or whatever...
    - Gigachad 15d ago
      Problem is they have to disconnect from the current wifi ap to connect to the cameras ap which is inconvenient and means there can’t be a constant connection. Wifi NAN could be used to solve this problem but I’ve not seen anything using it. Apple only just added support last year though.
dsego 15d ago
They do transfer, but it's not automatic.
- robmccoll 15d ago
  My Nikon ZF transfers to my phone through Nikon's SnapBridge app automatically.
  - dsego 15d ago
    Oh, that's cool, kudos to Nikon, could be a good reason to switch over from Fuji.
mrheosuper 15d ago
Bluetooth is slow. The transport is 3Mbps at max, if you subtract all the headers from different layers, you may have like 1.5-2Mbps practical transfer speed.
- Dylan16807 15d ago
  Sounds like the "or such" wins, but even with bluetooth speeds that means you're backing up 1-5 photos per minute and that helps a lot.
  - mrheosuper 15d ago
    And harm a lot too, you phone can't deep sleep since it has to wake up periodically to process data from bluetooth stack. Combined with slow transfer speed, that gonna eat your battery like nothing.
    - Dylan16807 15d ago
      Playing audio over bluetooth also wakes things periodically, but it uses almost no power. With a similarly competent design photo transfer should be very battery efficient.
      - mrheosuper 14d ago
        No, most(if not all) bluetooth controller has audio offload, basically the cpu does not involve(or very little) when transfering data from storage to radio.
        Dylan16807 14d ago
        Don't you mean yes bluetooth controllers have audio offload? "similarly competent design" means you do the exact same thing in the other direction. Instead of rarely waking up the CPU to coordinate sending, you rarely wake it up to coordinate receiving.
      - deleted 14d ago

I would hope they have some feature for automatic backup to your phone over bluetooth or such today.

jeffbee 15d ago

WiFi is a little faster I guess? In the primitive days people used the EyeFi.

jimmaswell 15d ago
You would often not have wifi available, and you wouldn't want to have to type in wifi passwords to your camera all the time. But your phone will almost always be nearby and persistent bluetooth is easy.
- toast0 15d ago
  Wifi between your camera and the phone. Or your camera and a laptop in your bag or whatever...
  - Gigachad 15d ago
    Problem is they have to disconnect from the current wifi ap to connect to the cameras ap which is inconvenient and means there can’t be a constant connection. Wifi NAN could be used to solve this problem but I’ve not seen anything using it. Apple only just added support last year though.

dsego 15d ago

They do transfer, but it's not automatic.

robmccoll 15d ago
My Nikon ZF transfers to my phone through Nikon's SnapBridge app automatically.
- dsego 15d ago
  Oh, that's cool, kudos to Nikon, could be a good reason to switch over from Fuji.

mrheosuper 15d ago

Bluetooth is slow. The transport is 3Mbps at max, if you subtract all the headers from different layers, you may have like 1.5-2Mbps practical transfer speed.

Dylan16807 15d ago
Sounds like the "or such" wins, but even with bluetooth speeds that means you're backing up 1-5 photos per minute and that helps a lot.
- mrheosuper 15d ago
  And harm a lot too, you phone can't deep sleep since it has to wake up periodically to process data from bluetooth stack. Combined with slow transfer speed, that gonna eat your battery like nothing.
  - Dylan16807 15d ago
    Playing audio over bluetooth also wakes things periodically, but it uses almost no power. With a similarly competent design photo transfer should be very battery efficient.
    - mrheosuper 14d ago
      No, most(if not all) bluetooth controller has audio offload, basically the cpu does not involve(or very little) when transfering data from storage to radio.
      - Dylan16807 14d ago
        Don't you mean yes bluetooth controllers have audio offload? "similarly competent design" means you do the exact same thing in the other direction. Instead of rarely waking up the CPU to coordinate sending, you rarely wake it up to coordinate receiving.
    - deleted 14d ago