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They are simply looking to steer AI policy discussions. It's basically an in-house think tank. It has all the trappings, especially with ominous prognostication
by nsagent 16d ago
They are simply looking to steer AI policy discussions. It's basically an in-house think tank. It has all the trappings, especially with ominous prognostications like:
Today’s AI systems have impressive capabilities and the rapid pace of innovation suggests we’re now approaching artificial general intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities of the human brain.
Not sure we are anywhere close to all the cognitive capabilities of the human brain... not even a severely lobotomized one.
- pixl97 16d agoExactly how many cognitive capabilities are needed before it becomes a problem?
- verdverm 16d agoJust one, the ability to use language, it's causing all sorts of problems for us because we evolved to recognize other humans as the only ones having this capability. Ai separated humans from language, like the writing did for memory and the printing press for knowledge distribution. "AI does to us what American Cheese did to food" by Opus 23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CbmC2aWhjY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CbmC2aWhjY (still the best Ai video I have seen, also a work of art)
- partyficial 15d agoRarely do I sit through a 40 minute youtube video end to end, fully engaged - above was one of them. It is the only video in that channel, and worth it.
- verdverm 15d agoTruly a one-hit wonder! He has some ambitions for more videos, based on comment replies, but it would be way more legendary to have a single video forever, make a new channel and I'll sub to that one too
- ozgrakkurt 16d ago> like the writing did for memory and the printing press for knowledge distribution This blob of text seems to mean nothing
- verdverm 16d agoWhat happened to the knowledge in the elder's mind when they died, prior to writing? What changed about that once we had writing?
- jatora 15d agoever heard of the game "telephone"?
- verdverm 15d agoyup, what always happened in the end? why is writing things down better?
- pixl97 15d ago>why is writing things down better? For the same reason we make kids write out math problems rather than just reciting them. It engages different parts of the brain for one, you gain an expanded amount of context by doing so. The next thing has to do with human memory, when you remember something it is never read only. Recalling memory can adjust your neurons and change the memory, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Hence why eyewitness testimony is mostly trash. Writing it down also provides a larger workspace for making changes that you can loop over. Quite often things sound fine in our mind, then we write it, and reread it and we realize its wrong. These days people commonly use this in agentic workflows. One agent will conceptualize an idea, and then it's passed off to another agent with a clean context to review for logical flaws. Reading ones own text does the same things for humans, we don't load the full memory context of what we wrote and it seemingly allows us to iterate over the problem differently. And I guess lastly, human voice is very low bandwidth. A wagon full of well written books is far easier to manage than the humans that contain that knowledge. The reader is at their leisure to learn and the speaker isn't inconvenienced by being at someones beck and call.
- watwut 15d agoAny single one is "a problem". However, extinction level of a problem, which is what they are talking about, a lot more.
- Eueudhsbsj32 16d ago> Not sure we are anywhere close to all the cognitive capabilities of the human brain... In which capabilities are AI not already close to or beyond that of a human brain?
- jkuli 15d agopolitics
- idiotsecant 15d agoThe ability to solve general problems previously insoluble using only experiential data and modification to internal world models.
- aesthesia 15d agoSo, like ARC-AGI-3? I'm sympathetic to the notion that the things we're able to measure are necessarily going to miss important aspects of capability and intelligence. But people are attempting to measure this kind of thing, and models keep getting better at it.
- daveguy 15d agoAnd yet, curiously, they fall flat on their silicone asses until they have a copy of the test to "train on".
- idiotsecant 13d agoYes, except actually novel.
- chpatrick 15d agoThey've read a few thousand years of experiential data in text form.
- idiotsecant 13d agoThat's not true and its exactly the point - real life data is noisy, difficult to parse, and ultimately often ambiguous. Text is the distilled information. It's significantly easier to distilled text into a likely response than it is to distill into lessons a continuous data stream whose contents are partially controlled by your own actions.
- bossyTeacher 15d ago> They are simply looking to steer AI policy discussions. It's basically an in-house think tank. For a guy who spent his life imagining and realising dreams in video games and cognitive abilities in artificial neural networks, it has to be very soul destroying for Demis to spend his time doing something as frivolous as this.
- leoc 15d agoI don't know, Hassabis always seems to have been willing and able to do PR and put himself out there, in addition to having the technical muscle.
- bossyTeacher 15d agoDidn't he get kicked out of the company he founded? Deep Mind does not have a CEO anymore
- leoc 15d agoSo it seems, but what of it? That wasn't his first career setback, and I'm sure he's still trying to get interesting work done at Isomorphic and maybe elsewhere in addition to working the PR pump for Alphabet.
- ikrenji 15d agomaybe if AI was progressing linearly we wouldn't be close, but if it's progressing exponentially then all bets are off
- Forgeties79 15d agoUntil an LLM can sustain a conversation with me for more than 20 to 30 minutes without becoming incoherent I’m just not even entertaining any idea that we have reached AGI.