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That's quite untrue. I taught my (adult) brother the moves, the only illegal move he ever tried against me (over his 6 first games) was a castle with a rook tha
by orwin 10d ago
That's quite untrue. I taught my (adult) brother the moves, the only illegal move he ever tried against me (over his 6 first games) was a castle with a rook that already moved twice. Within a few hundred games (less than 500 for sure, he played 3 minutes blitz but always took at least 10 minutes analyzing his games) he was rated 1100 on lichess (which is like 1050 on chess.com and unranked in the real world).
- willmarch 10d agoSo your brother tried to make illegal moves while learning the game and it took your brother hundreds of games to get to be a decent player? I don't see how this contradicts anything I said...
- orwin 10d agoThe _only_ illegal move a human might make as a beginner is a failed en passant or a bad castle. And yes, a few hundred games is all it takes to be better than any publicly available LLM at the moment.
- willmarch 8d ago...and mistakes like not seeing discovered checks, castling into check, trying to castle out of check, castling through a check, missing checks when promoting a piece, misunderstanding how stalemate works, etc? If you compared a human after hundreds of games to a SOTA LLM that was also trained on the output of hundreds of chess games that it played, I suspect you would notice similar improvements.
- orwin 8d agoHonestly, if we're only talking about SOTA llms, in sandbox mode without harness? No shot. Without harness LLMs have no memory of previous moves. I can't make the last version of chatgpt remember more than 5 movements. I guarantee you, if you do not add flags in the harness with 'left rook moved' or 'right rook moved', it will try to illegally castle 100% of the time it's in the situation. Llm+harness, just make it call stockfish tbh.