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Nah there's a lot of reasons to prefer physical * You own it forever * Nothing to charge * Don't have yet another screen to stare at * Its the definitive wa

Nah there's a lot of reasons to prefer physical * You own it forever * Nothing to charge * Don't have yet another screen to stare at * Its the definitive way to collect books (similar in the sense of vinyl for music) * Going to used bookstores is awesome * Seeing your whole collection physically is awesome and can be a conversation starter * Graphic novels/comics are still better physical

ThrowawayR2 18d ago
> "Seeing your whole collection physically is awesome" Not after what the submitter did.
wolrah 16d ago
> * You own it forever Why does everyone advocating for physical always treat effective DRM as a given? I have bought a lot of digital music in my life, and I own every bit of it as long as my copies exist, just like all the physical music I bought before (and converted to digital as soon as it was practical). > * Nothing to charge My e-readers last weeks of active use without charging, and I literally found a Kindle that had been lost for over a year a few weeks ago which still had over 30% charge because they take basically no power if they're not being used. Charging really is not a significant concern. > * Don't have yet another screen to stare at It's a very different type of screen, that doesn't have the same effect on your eyes and by its low-color low-refresh-rate nature really isn't easy to implement the sorts of attention-stealing anti-features that other screens often contain. > * Its the definitive way to collect books (similar in the sense of vinyl for music) Similar to vinyl, it's "definitive" to people who care more about how it looks on their shelf than actually enjoying the content. Pulling a beautiful hardcover off the shelf, setting it down, and opening it up is great of course, just like pulling a record off the shelf, sliding it out of the sleeve, placing it on the turntable, and setting the needle in place. Once you've done that however it's the same book, the same music, just a lot less convenient (and in the case of vinyl, objectively worse quality than a well-mastered high-quality digital release). > * Going to used bookstores is awesome No disagreement there. That said, if someone were to ever develop an ebook licensing system that allowed for arbitrary transfer and resale through third parties it would certainly be interesting to see what turned up in the "bargain bin" that way too. I'm not sure how such a thing could actually be possible and I'm not going to hold my breath for it to ever happen but the concept of resale is not inherently impossible in digital content. > * Seeing your whole collection physically is awesome and can be a conversation starter No argument there, my partner's game shelf takes up an entire wall in our house and has hundreds of giant colorful boxes covered in artwork. My Steam library has an order of magnitude more games in it but it's just a list on a screen that I can make show thumbnail images of what the cover would look like if it existed as a physical product. That said, while I may not have the giant media racks we all drooled over in the '90s, the flip side of that is digital content takes up effectively zero space and weighs nothing. I drive around with my entire music library on a USB stick in my car every day and have for over a decade at this point. My e-reader has every single book I own on it with plenty of space to spare. My Steam Deck has enough space built in for dozens of modern games, and I also have a MicroSD card in it containing every single game for basically every 8/16 bit system ever produced, as well as my favorites of the 32 bit and beyond eras. > * Graphic novels/comics are still better physical Yeah color e-paper displays still have a LONG way to go before they can even think about the graphic novel market. That side of things is sort of like where digital music was in the era where MP3 players had storage measured in megabytes so you might not even get a full album without having to compress it to a point where you can definitely tell. It's possible to see the promise in the concept, but it's definitely not there yet (and unlike MP3 player capacity, we can't even assume the tech will get there eventually).

ThrowawayR2 18d ago

> "Seeing your whole collection physically is awesome" Not after what the submitter did.

wolrah 16d ago

> * You own it forever Why does everyone advocating for physical always treat effective DRM as a given? I have bought a lot of digital music in my life, and I own every bit of it as long as my copies exist, just like all the physical music I bought before (and converted to digital as soon as it was practical). > * Nothing to charge My e-readers last weeks of active use without charging, and I literally found a Kindle that had been lost for over a year a few weeks ago which still had over 30% charge because they take basically no power if they're not being used. Charging really is not a significant concern. > * Don't have yet another screen to stare at It's a very different type of screen, that doesn't have the same effect on your eyes and by its low-color low-refresh-rate nature really isn't easy to implement the sorts of attention-stealing anti-features that other screens often contain. > * Its the definitive way to collect books (similar in the sense of vinyl for music) Similar to vinyl, it's "definitive" to people who care more about how it looks on their shelf than actually enjoying the content. Pulling a beautiful hardcover off the shelf, setting it down, and opening it up is great of course, just like pulling a record off the shelf, sliding it out of the sleeve, placing it on the turntable, and setting the needle in place. Once you've done that however it's the same book, the same music, just a lot less convenient (and in the case of vinyl, objectively worse quality than a well-mastered high-quality digital release). > * Going to used bookstores is awesome No disagreement there. That said, if someone were to ever develop an ebook licensing system that allowed for arbitrary transfer and resale through third parties it would certainly be interesting to see what turned up in the "bargain bin" that way too. I'm not sure how such a thing could actually be possible and I'm not going to hold my breath for it to ever happen but the concept of resale is not inherently impossible in digital content. > * Seeing your whole collection physically is awesome and can be a conversation starter No argument there, my partner's game shelf takes up an entire wall in our house and has hundreds of giant colorful boxes covered in artwork. My Steam library has an order of magnitude more games in it but it's just a list on a screen that I can make show thumbnail images of what the cover would look like if it existed as a physical product. That said, while I may not have the giant media racks we all drooled over in the '90s, the flip side of that is digital content takes up effectively zero space and weighs nothing. I drive around with my entire music library on a USB stick in my car every day and have for over a decade at this point. My e-reader has every single book I own on it with plenty of space to spare. My Steam Deck has enough space built in for dozens of modern games, and I also have a MicroSD card in it containing every single game for basically every 8/16 bit system ever produced, as well as my favorites of the 32 bit and beyond eras. > * Graphic novels/comics are still better physical Yeah color e-paper displays still have a LONG way to go before they can even think about the graphic novel market. That side of things is sort of like where digital music was in the era where MP3 players had storage measured in megabytes so you might not even get a full album without having to compress it to a point where you can definitely tell. It's possible to see the promise in the concept, but it's definitely not there yet (and unlike MP3 player capacity, we can't even assume the tech will get there eventually).