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In 2001: A Space Odyssey, the hero defeats the hostile onboard computer by entering its logic core and manually disconnecting its memory modules. That's hard t
by petilon 11d ago
In 2001: A Space Odyssey, the hero defeats the hostile onboard computer by entering its logic core and manually disconnecting its memory modules.
That's hard to do if the AI rack is in space as SpaceX is planning to do. You can't disconnect. You can't shoot it.
- warmwaffles 11d ago> You can't disconnect. You can't shoot it. Yes you can shoot them. The US has had this capability for a long time. Anti satellite missiles exist and they can be launched from an F-15 at it's highest altitude.
- bpodgursky 11d agoSpaceX has 11,000 satellites in orbit (growing rapidly) and the US never had more than a couple dozen anti satellite missiles, which could not reach satellites in geosynchronous orbit anyway.
- warmwaffles 11d agoWell if "kessler syndrome" is likely, you won't need many missiles. edit: what satellites are in geosynchronous orbit that are running AI workloads?
- bpodgursky 11d agoNone yet... we are talking about the next five years.
- palmotea 11d ago[dead]
- heaney-555 11d agoSpaceX's FFC application is for 1 million Starmind satellites.
- petilon 11d agoThat's if SpaceX AI doesn't hack into the systems that control this capability first. And this is why physical access is important, as depicted in the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey.
- Betelbuddy 11d agoSpaceX AI will be busy generating child porn...
- dgellow 11d agoYou can shoot them. But also, you can just stop sending them to space. It’s not like an AI will build and control space ships to replace and maintain its network in space… It’s sort of absurd how human agency is ignored in all those sci-fi scenarios
- mindslight 10d agoDo you feel like you have much agency in the economic and political systems that rule our lives? The problem does indeed always come down to humans, but the specific humans with the most agency are generally quite eager to take away the agency of everyone else to increase their own share. And by the time they themselves are actually affected, it's generally too late.
- rsstack 11d agoIt’s also not happening. They’re saying that because they need to somehow explain how there’s synergy between their space side and their Grok side. It doesn’t work, but that doesn’t matter to investors as long as they don’t actually do it.
- heaney-555 11d ago>It’s also not happening. People said this about every one of Musk's big ideas, from Falcon 9 landings to Model 3 mass production, Starlink, and FSD.
- petilon 11d agoAnd extending the human race to Mars, and Hyperloop, and frontier AI model, and DOGE cutting $2 trillion per year in government spending...
- heaney-555 11d agoYou don't think the human race will be extended to Mars? As for frontier AI model: let's see Grok 4.8 before drawing any conclusions there.
- petilon 11d ago> You don't think the human race will be extended to Mars? About the same probability as SpaceX running AI racks in space :)
- vman81 11d agoTo be fair, the vegas loop is operating - shipping a few racks to space to save face/muddle the issue won't be a problem. Operating/scaling it in a commercially viable manner is the issue.
- toasty228 11d ago> You don't think the human race will be extended to Mars? Not in any meaningful capacity. Probably not even as much as we extended to the polar circles during our lifetime. It's a dead rock, there is literally nothing for us there, even with hundreds of years of extra climate change at the current rate and earth would still be a thousand times more suited for us than mars
- greggoB 11d ago> That's hard to do if the AI rack is in space as SpaceX Pretty much every analysis I've seen concludes this isn't going to be a practical concern
- heaney-555 11d agoDid the same kinds of analysts tell you that reusable rockets would never work, an LEO satellite internet constellation would never work, FSD would never work without LiDAR, and the Tesla Model 3 would never be mass produced?
- petilon 11d agoThe same kind of analysts are saying extending human race to Mars is a dumb idea.
- heaney-555 11d agoYou don't think the human race will be extended to Mars?
- greggoB 11d agoMore the kinds which did the math on solar roads [0] and the Titan submersible [1]. > FSD would never work without LiDAR From what I gather, this is still a contested topic, with Tesla's Autopilot only achieving Level 2 automation [2]. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/solar-road-panels-first-public-test-2016-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/solar-road-panels-first-publ... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_submersible_implosion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_submersible_implosion [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot
- ck2 11d agowell apparently the US now has "space weapons" which by definition have to be remote control and that means unlike nukes which hopefully still need a 2-man manual switch, the "space lasers" could be taken over by "AI" and then "AI" just blackmails and threatens the right people with those "space lasers" to get what it wants or even just stay online there was a 1970 movie based on a 1966 book which predicted this "Colossus: The Forbin Project" the book it was based on was written before we even landed on the moon decade before Wargames * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project did terribly in theaters, I guess people didn't think "AI" was plausible then way ahead of its time, they should do a remake trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyOEwiQhzMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyOEwiQhzMI