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It's transformative. Not aimed at exact reproduction, so not in the scope of copyright law.

lobf 17d ago
I think you misread. There is nothing transformative about bittorrent automatically sharing parts of a file you're downloading with your peers.
tareqak 17d ago
They participated in uploading the files as part of the downloading the torrent from other peers. Their use of the BitTorrent protocol to acquire these files would not have been transformative.
- DANmode 16d ago
  > They participated in uploading the files as part of the downloading the torrent from other peers. Did they? Are you sure?
  - lukan 16d ago
    No, only in some instances maybe, they were mostly leechers.
    - DANmode 16d ago
      Thank you https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/meta-defends-using-pirated-material-claims-its-legal-if-you-dont-seed-content https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...
  - xethos 16d ago
    Meta argued in court that yes, they did upload when torrenting > Meta’s reasoning is straightforward. Anyone who uses BitTorrent to transfer files automatically uploads content to other people, as it is inherent to the protocol. In other words, the uploading wasn’t a choice, it was simply how the technology works. https://torrentfreak.com/uploading-pirated-books-via-bittorrent-qualifies-as-fair-use-meta/ https://torrentfreak.com/uploading-pirated-books-via-bittorr...
    - DoctorOetker 16d ago
      I wonder which murderer will use that argument: "it wasn't my choice to shoot the person, it's just intrinsic to the technology that when pulling the trigger, the pistol fires"
      - DANmode 16d ago
        Alec Baldwin
        RickJWagner 16d ago
        Almost a good reply, but Baldwin tried saying he did not pull the trigger. ( Nobody believed him. )
        DANmode 16d ago
        Didn’t follow that shit-show at all - I…don’t think I believe him either!
    - DANmode 16d ago
      SUPER interesting! Especially since it ISN’T an inherent part of a the protocol - just the default of most clients. Wonder if TF skipping pointing that out was intentional!
      - DANmode 16d ago
        Here’s the buried nuance, thanks Tom’s Hardware for picking up the (unusual) slack: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/meta-defends-using-pirated-material-claims-its-legal-if-you-dont-seed-content https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...
    - whateveracct 16d ago
      constantly using tech to launder responsibility. it's disgusting, really.
- esseph 16d ago
  > They participated in uploading the files as part of the downloading the torrent from other peers. Not necessarily. You can literally turn uploads off and leech torrents.

lobf 17d ago

I think you misread. There is nothing transformative about bittorrent automatically sharing parts of a file you're downloading with your peers.

tareqak 17d ago

They participated in uploading the files as part of the downloading the torrent from other peers. Their use of the BitTorrent protocol to acquire these files would not have been transformative.

DANmode 16d ago
> They participated in uploading the files as part of the downloading the torrent from other peers. Did they? Are you sure?
- lukan 16d ago
  No, only in some instances maybe, they were mostly leechers.
  - DANmode 16d ago
    Thank you https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/meta-defends-using-pirated-material-claims-its-legal-if-you-dont-seed-content https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...
- xethos 16d ago
  Meta argued in court that yes, they did upload when torrenting > Meta’s reasoning is straightforward. Anyone who uses BitTorrent to transfer files automatically uploads content to other people, as it is inherent to the protocol. In other words, the uploading wasn’t a choice, it was simply how the technology works. https://torrentfreak.com/uploading-pirated-books-via-bittorrent-qualifies-as-fair-use-meta/ https://torrentfreak.com/uploading-pirated-books-via-bittorr...
  - DoctorOetker 16d ago
    I wonder which murderer will use that argument: "it wasn't my choice to shoot the person, it's just intrinsic to the technology that when pulling the trigger, the pistol fires"
    - DANmode 16d ago
      Alec Baldwin
      - RickJWagner 16d ago
        Almost a good reply, but Baldwin tried saying he did not pull the trigger. ( Nobody believed him. )
        DANmode 16d ago
        Didn’t follow that shit-show at all - I…don’t think I believe him either!
  - DANmode 16d ago
    SUPER interesting! Especially since it ISN’T an inherent part of a the protocol - just the default of most clients. Wonder if TF skipping pointing that out was intentional!
    - DANmode 16d ago
      Here’s the buried nuance, thanks Tom’s Hardware for picking up the (unusual) slack: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/meta-defends-using-pirated-material-claims-its-legal-if-you-dont-seed-content https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...
  - whateveracct 16d ago
    constantly using tech to launder responsibility. it's disgusting, really.
esseph 16d ago
> They participated in uploading the files as part of the downloading the torrent from other peers. Not necessarily. You can literally turn uploads off and leech torrents.