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Thats how they usually happen ? They are always "cold"

DonHopkins 12d ago
Unless you're C level, in which case you get promoted to "Vice President in Charge of Looking for a New Job" for a quarter.
eterm 12d ago
This appears to be a UK new site*, and it's definitely not how they usually happen there. In fact, it's not even how they legally happen. > 100 or more redundancies - the consultation must start at least 45 days before any dismissals take effect https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/consultation https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/consultation If you want to have similar laws, you need to lobby your representatives, and get them to follow California's example, which introduced the Cal-WARN act: > “an employer may not order a mass layoff, relocation, or termination at a covered establishment unless, 60 days before the order takes effect, the employer gives written notice of the order” From https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Cal-WARNAct.html https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Cal-WARNAct.html But as others have said, it's not as strong as the UK laws, so it just becomes a de-facto notice period instead. It's still progress though. * Although not one I've ever heard of, which is a little suspicious.
- dcrazy 12d ago
  There’s a federal WARN act too. Neither the state nor federal versions gives the employees any legal right to try to change the business’s mind.
- arccy 12d ago
  even in the UK they still get announced as layoffs, employees get their access revoked, and they're in some sort of limbo while the consultations / process takes place.
  - fpoling 12d ago
    At least people get paid during the gardening leave.
    - dominotw 11d ago
      they get paid in usa too. severance is usually warn notice period.
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Scoring6931 12d ago
It seems to be a British article. For European standards, it's not only cold but would be absurdly illegal.
- dominotw 11d ago
  Really? Spotify did a layoff in sweden and they all got an email at 7 am and access cut off. None of them ever got reinstated.

Unless you're C level, in which case you get promoted to "Vice President in Charge of Looking for a New Job" for a quarter.

eterm 12d ago

This appears to be a UK new site*, and it's definitely not how they usually happen there. In fact, it's not even how they legally happen. > 100 or more redundancies - the consultation must start at least 45 days before any dismissals take effect https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/consultation https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/consultation If you want to have similar laws, you need to lobby your representatives, and get them to follow California's example, which introduced the Cal-WARN act: > “an employer may not order a mass layoff, relocation, or termination at a covered establishment unless, 60 days before the order takes effect, the employer gives written notice of the order” From https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Cal-WARNAct.html https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Cal-WARNAct.html But as others have said, it's not as strong as the UK laws, so it just becomes a de-facto notice period instead. It's still progress though. * Although not one I've ever heard of, which is a little suspicious.

dcrazy 12d ago
There’s a federal WARN act too. Neither the state nor federal versions gives the employees any legal right to try to change the business’s mind.
arccy 12d ago
even in the UK they still get announced as layoffs, employees get their access revoked, and they're in some sort of limbo while the consultations / process takes place.
- fpoling 12d ago
  At least people get paid during the gardening leave.
  - dominotw 11d ago
    they get paid in usa too. severance is usually warn notice period.
- deleted 12d ago
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Scoring6931 12d ago

It seems to be a British article. For European standards, it's not only cold but would be absurdly illegal.

dominotw 11d ago
Really? Spotify did a layoff in sweden and they all got an email at 7 am and access cut off. None of them ever got reinstated.