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Utterly moronic. We support the freedom of the Iranian people by forcing them to install a local government root CA in every browser. I mean at this rate they w

Utterly moronic. We support the freedom of the Iranian people by forcing them to install a local government root CA in every browser. I mean at this rate they won't even have to buy their monitoring tech from China any more, just an old PC and a late 90s tarball of Squid

throw310822 18d ago
Nobody gives a damn about the freedom of the Iranian people. They are a problem for Israel [1], so the US bombs them. The rest is just post-hoc justification. [1] Note that every civilised country should be a problem for Israel- but Iran is the only one that actually dares opposing it.
- misano 18d ago
  These remarks are antisemitic. The people of Iran aren’t seeking a fight against imperialism. We want to live like ordinary people in the U.S., Europe, and Israel, and be allied with them. The fascist Shiite regime has taken everyone hostage, and it’s leading us toward a collective suicide.
  - throw310822 18d ago
    > These remarks are antisemitic So it would be fine if they were against any other country engaged in genocide, but not against Israel because it's Jewish? Is that your defense of Israel? > We want to live like ordinary people in the U.S., Europe, and Israel, and be allied with them You want to be allied with a genocidal state and the country that has forced you into poverty for the last decades?
    - catch310688 18d ago
      In 2026 in Gaza there were about 1000 deaths - many of them combatants officially mourned by Hamas and Islamic Jihad. In the same year: Iran killed at-least 5000 civilian protesters. Russia killed around 1,800 Ukrainian civilians. 5000 were killed in Sudan. 3000 in Haiti. You are fine will all that (or will deny it), because you only care when the Jews are involved.
      - megous 18d ago
        People don't have memory capacity of mayflies. That's your primary mistaken assumption.
  - s5300 18d ago
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  - mahboi 18d ago
    I don't care what Iran, Iranians, or Israel wants. I'm American. The fact is, Israel somehow pushed our executive branch to start a war over there.
Avamander 18d ago
What's stopping them from using a CA from any other sphere of influence though? I feel like not being able to use US CAs is just a cheap excuse to enact what they've wanted for a while. Same in Russia.
Analemma_ 18d ago
I mean, we very clearly do not support the freedom of the Iranian people. We deposed their democratically-elected leader in the 50s in favor of someone more pliable to Western interests, and when they rose up against their current government early in the year we went "Good luck! We're with you all the way!", then stood there when 30,000 of them were massacred. The well-being of ordinary Iranians has never been part of the calculus, so there's not really any actual hypocrisy.
- mahboi 18d ago
  It's not impossible that the US got rid of the last shah too. He had turned against western interests at some point.

throw310822 18d ago

Nobody gives a damn about the freedom of the Iranian people. They are a problem for Israel [1], so the US bombs them. The rest is just post-hoc justification. [1] Note that every civilised country should be a problem for Israel- but Iran is the only one that actually dares opposing it.

misano 18d ago
These remarks are antisemitic. The people of Iran aren’t seeking a fight against imperialism. We want to live like ordinary people in the U.S., Europe, and Israel, and be allied with them. The fascist Shiite regime has taken everyone hostage, and it’s leading us toward a collective suicide.
- throw310822 18d ago
  > These remarks are antisemitic So it would be fine if they were against any other country engaged in genocide, but not against Israel because it's Jewish? Is that your defense of Israel? > We want to live like ordinary people in the U.S., Europe, and Israel, and be allied with them You want to be allied with a genocidal state and the country that has forced you into poverty for the last decades?
  - catch310688 18d ago
    In 2026 in Gaza there were about 1000 deaths - many of them combatants officially mourned by Hamas and Islamic Jihad. In the same year: Iran killed at-least 5000 civilian protesters. Russia killed around 1,800 Ukrainian civilians. 5000 were killed in Sudan. 3000 in Haiti. You are fine will all that (or will deny it), because you only care when the Jews are involved.
    - megous 18d ago
      People don't have memory capacity of mayflies. That's your primary mistaken assumption.
- s5300 18d ago
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- mahboi 18d ago
  I don't care what Iran, Iranians, or Israel wants. I'm American. The fact is, Israel somehow pushed our executive branch to start a war over there.

Avamander 18d ago

What's stopping them from using a CA from any other sphere of influence though? I feel like not being able to use US CAs is just a cheap excuse to enact what they've wanted for a while. Same in Russia.

Analemma_ 18d ago

I mean, we very clearly do not support the freedom of the Iranian people. We deposed their democratically-elected leader in the 50s in favor of someone more pliable to Western interests, and when they rose up against their current government early in the year we went "Good luck! We're with you all the way!", then stood there when 30,000 of them were massacred. The well-being of ordinary Iranians has never been part of the calculus, so there's not really any actual hypocrisy.

mahboi 18d ago
It's not impossible that the US got rid of the last shah too. He had turned against western interests at some point.