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How is the keyboard broken? Maybe I'm so used to whatever it is that I'm blind to it.
by swinglock 14d ago
How is the keyboard broken? Maybe I'm so used to whatever it is that I'm blind to it.
- mathisfun123 14d agotry using swipe-type on an android and you'll see. the funny thing is it's been this way since the iphone 1 because iphone 1 didn't have swipe-type while very early android did (via "swype").
- __patchbit__ 14d agomacOS has the prior keycombo for 'home' and 'end' occupied for other uses. command + up/down arrow I don't know how to read to the bottom of a webpage and jump immediately to the top of page. Plus, the global key at bottom left fails for keyboard shortcut input when defining new binding for managing windowing rearrangement.
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- gabagool 14d agoYour specific usecase has a native solve. Tap the status bar on any scrollable content view to scroll immediately to the top of the page. This has been around since, I believe, iPhone OS 1.
- semiquaver 14d agoTap? With your fingers?
- wpm 13d agoCommand+up arrow and down arrow behave exactly as you say on my computer: like home and end do on PC/Linux. Command left and right for how it also behaves on Linux/PC if you're in a text field. They always have? I use that combo all the time and only have issues in Safari tabs that overload the arrow keys with bullshit.
- stavros 13d agoCommand + up/down is pg up/pg dn. Command + left/right is home/end.
- devindotcom 14d agoI personally use the swiping keyboard on ios and it seems to detect the wrong word with an almost malicious frequency. It also randomly Capitalizes things.
- devilbunny 14d agoFor some reason, the one word that it just will not let me swipe is “and”. Which is, you know, somewhat common. I get all kinds of random things instead.
- ok_dad 14d agoand -> Abe for me for some reason.
- eep_social 13d agoyou most likely have an Abe in your contacts, I don’t have an Abe but have a similar issue with a last name from mine. the behavior sort of makes sense if I squint and crane my neck around a bit but I have no idea how the weightings are so bad.
- neutronicus 14d ago"ABs"
- devilbunny 13d agoThat is common. The one that I haven’t seen lately is “Abbas”, like the Palestinian politician. Except, I don’t ever write about Middle Eastern politics. At all. But it was a favorite for a while.
- dash2 13d agoI can't do "is". I get "OSS" instead. I'm not even that into open source.
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- visarga 14d ago(adjacent to keyboard) It has no way to select all text. That makes the whole platform a toy.
- vjvjvjvjghv 14d agoIt used to be there but a few releases ago the option disappeared.
- shreddit 14d agoEach time you type the wrong letter there’s a big chance you didn’t miss but the keyboard typed the wrong key anyway.
- neutronicus 14d agoIt's unclear to me if they're alleging that it's recently broken. I switched to iPhone at my wife's insistence 3-4 years ago and I have pined for Swype the entire time. It's so bad and I was spoiled by Android.
- WalterGR 14d agoWhat do you find lacking in iOS’s swipe keyboard implementation?
- Macha 14d agoPoor word choices. Backwards "corrections" that are incorrect.
- neutronicus 14d agoI can't comment knowledgeably. I just regularly have to try over and over again to get it to produce the word I want, and my memory is that this happened rarely on Android. Wait! I do have a specific criticism! There are certain two-word sequences it will not produce ("kill myself", "white women") and I could do without that little bit of editorial oversight thank you very much.
- rootusrootus 14d agoAnd expletives. If I want to say fuck, that's my business, I don't need my phone refusing to allow it. If not for how embedded I am right now in the ecosystem, this keyboard & vocabulary behavior they force on me might be enough to make me switch.
- phoghed 13d agoSwipe keyboard has given up and let’s me type fuck now
- quasarj 13d agoYep, there's a whole set of censored phrases. Kill won't let you type a lot of things after it, including "him" and "her" (well, I haven't tested on iOS 27 yet). I haven't tried the white woman one though, that is cracking me up. update: Okay I tried and sure enough, I'm laughing even harder now. The closest I could get it to swipe was "womanhood". Lots of Wohan's though.
- Agingcoder 14d agoTry an android keyboard and go back to an iphone. Having switched back and forth between both systems it’s quite remarkable how bad the iphone keyboard is. In practice , typing on an iphone means constant typos, bad autofix, and bad suggestions.
- teekert 14d agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45662685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45662685
- vladvasiliu 13d agoI used to have galaxy S phones with some aftermarket keyboard whose name I forget. It was quite popular at the time, and was fairly happy with it. When I moved from a gs5 to an iPhone 7, I was amazed at how much better the typing experience was. But it has now gotten to a point where I feel like a drunk monkey would type better than I do.
- ronyeh 13d agoYay, I found my people… I switch between Android and iPhone every few cycles, and I really do miss my swipe keyboard on Android. iPhone swipe and tap keyboard always gives me trouble. I hate that it keeps trying to type my contacts’ names. Also, text selection OSS frequently maddening. Yes, I swiped “is” and it decided I’m a fan of open source software… When I try to select some words or position my cursor, iOS always wants to put the cursor far away from where I held my finger. Doesn’t make a lick of sense.
- rahoulb 13d agoAs someone who has had an iPhone since the 3GS (I'm so old), but tries Android out every now and then - I can wholeheartedly agree. The only real advantages iOS have left are not being run by an advertising/tracking company (which is reducing as Apple looks for services revenue) and the quality and variety of indie iPhone and iPad apps (yet Apple are happy to make those same devs extremely unhappy).
- meyum33 13d agoI would actually go one step further and claim that typing has not come back to the speed and accuracy of Blackberry and Nokia phones with physical keyboard. It's taking so long that we may actually destroy humanity with AI before we have fast and accurate keyboards again.
- schainks 14d ago1. Auto-correct inserts the wrong words into my sentences despite correct spelling and grammar. Think, "what a ducking joke". This has suddenly gotten better recently when it comes to typos, though. 2. The keyboard's AI will also helpfully misinterpret key presses and sub the wrong letter, which doesn't get corrected. For example, common acronyms get corrected to other acronyms I _never_ use. FFS turns into FFA regularly.
- sippeangelo 14d agoThey have some nasty "dynamic tap zones" algorithm that dynamically resizes the hitbox for keys based on what it predicts you will type in order to reduce miss-taps. Anecdotally, it has just steadily been getting worse with every update. I swear I can be pressing the center of a key and it will select the next one over and immediately autocorrect to a completely different word than what I typed. I had the pleasure of typing something on an Android the other day and it was such a breath of fresh air when it actually accepted the keys I was pressing...
- GreekPete 14d agoAh, so that’s why that happens? I was gaslighting myself.
- laweijfmvo 14d agosomeone posted high speed videos a few months ago where the keyboard will popup the key you thought you pressed (therefore did press, as far as the UI is concerned) but iOS will insert a different character anyway.
- teekert 14d agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45662685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45662685
- robocat 14d agoSome of those videos are misleading. They sometimes slide a finger off one key onto another: taps need to not move. Personally, I use the slyde to type rather than tapping to type and have gboard installed for when slyde doesn't work (I think the Apple algos are not quite as good as Google's).
- lynndotpy 14d agoYep; this has been the case since the very first iPhone, it can't be disabled, and there is no feedback it happens other than the typos. It is very crazy making and mind boggling.
- kovariantenkak 14d agoTyping German and Swiss German is entirely broken while English is fine on the Swiss German keyboard layout. It very often registers the wrong key even though a slow motion video shows very clearly that the finger hits the correct key initially.
- pyaamb 14d agoI really need the spacebar to expand slightly more on the right so my thumb doesn't miss it while typing. Wish it were customizable.
- Macha 14d agoThe best way to put it is it really wants to type what it wants to type, and if you deviate from that it will often end up just ignoring it. Whether it's the dynamic tap zones as mentioned elsewhere, or just auto correcting backwards and changing words you've already typed. Also when you go back and change a word it will also often insert additional spaces around the changed word. Or worse still if you mistype a word like say banana then backspan to ban and retype ana, it will display banana... Until you hit space and it turns it into "ban ana".
- gruturo 14d agoI have an English/Italian bilingual keyboard set up as my default. Every single f**n time I begin a sentence with "È" (Italian for "she/he/it is") - which is an extremely deliberate gesture - you have to keep the E tapped until the accents pop up - it will immediately correct it back to an unaccented "E". It's nuts. There is a metric ton of intent behind my selecting, keeping tapped, waiting for the accents, picking one - it's so obviously NOT accidental, and this utterly cretinous piece of junk changes it .
- prmoustache 14d agoCan't "autocorrect" be replaced to "autosuggest" instead like on android devices? I have never been fan of autocorrection tools (especially as I am regularly writing in 4 different languages) regardless of the OS but definitely use autosuggestions to correct potential spelling errors.
- layer8 13d agoIt can. I don’t understand how anyone willingly keeps autocorrect enabled on iOS. The autosuggestions are nevertheless still bad.
- Pulcinella 13d agoThe iPhone keyboard "intelligent" tap target size is independent of autocorrect, however, and you can't turn it off or adjust it's behavior.
- layer8 13d agoYes, the keyboard is pretty bad in various ways. I’m still surprised how many comments in this thread (and similar threads in the past) are mentioning the autocorrection, implying that they haven’t turned it off.
- Macha 13d agoLargely because the auto correction is needed to undo the damage caused by the tap target shenanigans.
- DrammBA 14d agohttps://youtu.be/hksVvXONrIo https://youtu.be/hksVvXONrIo - [It's Not Just You - The iOS Keyboard is Broken]
- rconti 13d agoI know the autocorrect is broken -- I consistently hit a bottom row character like "n" instead of spacebar, and it's simply unable to comprehend that you might have hit a letter instead of space. It comes up with all kinds of insane, implausible suggestions for the autocorrect, but never the obvious one that's 1 character from what i typed.
- drewbeck 13d agoYes! The way it tries to be smart about what you actually wanted to press but has certain areas that are exceptions to that rule — like space bar — drives me crazy.
- thiht 13d agoOooh that's what's happening! I sometimes end up with garbage like "so ' I'll" instead of, say, "someone" and I wondered how it happened.
- willis936 13d agoI am so very glad to see all of my complaints with ios text entry so thoroughly articulated in this thread. My first thought with the iphone duo is "how many people are going to develop a repetitive stress injury with these awful text entry interfaces and giant heavy devices?" Typing is more important than ever. We're a ways off from BCIs and there should be responsible and serious consideration for this problem.
- saimiam 13d ago"O can" instead of "I can" on the iPhone is the one which has been driving me bonkers for at least a couple of years now.
- thth 13d agoWhile we're complaining about the iOS keyboard, I just want a number row.