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Rush? This is an interim release (95% or so only tracks LTS's) that is not even out yet... Go file a bug reports if you have some time.

by teekert 20d ago

collinfunk 20d ago
I have. It has been an open bug upstream for years as well.
- teekert 20d ago
  ok, that's concerning, if you post it here I'll vote for it (after confirming).
  - JdeBP 19d ago
    The Launchpad bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils/+bug/2167206 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils/+bu... . The apparently related bug in the origin project is https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/2949 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/2949, filed back in 2022 and which sat unmoved for several years until, probably not coincidentally, almost the same time yesterday that this appeared on Hacker News.
jeffbee 20d ago
Reporting bugs before Ubuntu releases has never worked for me. They always land a bunch of major changes after the supposed "freeze" then they ignore all feedback because of the freeze. It's infuriating.
- collinfunk 20d ago
  Glad to hear that I am not alone. I feel like launchpad is totally ignored most of the time. To get a response on a buggy GNU coreutils patch of theirs [1], I had to mention it in a rust-coreutils bug months later... [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/2150305 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/215...
  - jabl 19d ago
    I've been a Ubuntu user for about 20 years, and I file bugs every now and then on launchpad. I don't recall any of them ever being fixed. Maybe the bugs get traction if you have a service contract? Best to file bugs directly to upstream, but that of course means you should try it on the latest upstream version and not whatever version ubuntu ships, so it's more friction.
    - b112 19d ago
      Upstream for much is Debian, but of course Ubuntu forks from testing, and then modifies... But if you can identify it as a bug in a version in Debian, that's a good place to file, as Ubuntu will get the fix eventually.
- gdevenyi 19d ago
  Reporting bugs _at all_ in Ubuntu has never worked for me.
mixmastamyk 20d ago
I did, and the original dev of the component fixed it within a few days. It was straightforward, a backwards reading of a spec, reordered. The fix is still sitting unmerged many months later. This surprised me since I thought the project was in heavy bugfix/compat mode. I won’t touch it until I see some velocity on open bugs.
- baq 19d ago
  Fork Ubuntu and threaten their business model, that’ll get their attention. Only half joking.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 19d ago
    Ubuntu is the fork; just use Debian.
  - tjoff 19d ago
    There are plenty of Ubuntu forks?
  - geokon 19d ago
    There's very little incentive to switch. When people release for Linux they almost always first/only test it works on Ubuntu - hence it's going to be the least buggy. (ex: GOG only seemingly tested games on Ubuntu) So the switching cost is buggy software. You'd need something radically different that brings enough new features to the table to make it worth it the switch and dealing with bad/non-existant support. I think something like Nix/Guix but with stable library versions that matches Ubuntu/Debian LTS ones 1-to-1 could get traction
    - drdexebtjl 19d ago
      Then you would have to embrace their bad decisions, such as this one, and if you do, what’s the point? Everything just needs to run from a container with their expected runtime environment.
    - pessimizer 19d ago
LtWorf 19d ago
My experience is that filing bug reports to ubuntu is a complete waste of time. Not sure if it's different for paying users.
Symbiote 19d ago
The bug report I filed several months ago hasn't been looked at. Many of these utilities were released and made the default for Ubuntu 26.04 LTS! There's a whole load of basic bugs reported and ignored: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils
- rwmj 19d ago
  They eventually fixed the one where it didn't sort properly, but it tooks months: https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12253 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12253 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12912 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12912
oefrha 19d ago
This is certainly not just affecting interim releases. Ubuntu 26.04.1 has been released but is currently held back from do-release-upgrade for the LTS channel (which IIRC is unusual for a LTS's .1 release) due to rust-coreutils issue: > Users of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS will be offered an automatic upgrade to 26.04.1 LTS via Update Manager a couple of weeks following this release after some planned backports to address regressions in a recent version of rust-coreutils. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-26-04-1-lts-released/86808 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-26-04-1-lts-released/8...
mort96 19d ago
This is what made me move away from Ubuntu. Use LTS and encounter issues with outdated packages? "Well duh, you're supposed to upgrade to interim releases if you need remotely up to date software". Use interim releases and encounter bugs? "Well duh, it's an interim release. Of course it's a buggy mess, nobody uses those" Every Fedora release is intended to be solid and they come out twice a year.
- sick_of_slop 19d ago
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- here_to_learn 19d ago
  I moved to Fedora from Ubuntu about a year ago for my laptop. My main motivation was not be defaulted to snap packages. I have had a great experience i.e it gets out of the way and it doesn't fall apart when I update stuff. I was worried about SELinux but find Fedoras defaults just fine and intuitive.
- dirtikiti 17d ago
  Keep using it, there's tons of bugs for you to find in Fedora. My favorite was a system-upgrade that installed broken video drivers, as recently as late 30x releases.
mkj 18d ago
The 26.04.01 upgrade LTS is delayed from it too, not just interim releases. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2026-August/000326.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2026-Augus... > Users of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS will be offered an automatic upgrade to 26.04.1 LTS via Update Manager a couple of weeks following this release after some planned backports to address regressions in a recent version of rust-coreutils.

Rush? This is an interim release (95% or so only tracks LTS's) that is not even out yet... Go file a bug reports if you have some time.

by teekert 20d ago

Rush? This is an interim release (95% or so only tracks LTS's) that is not even out yet... Go file a bug reports if you have some time.

collinfunk 20d ago

I have. It has been an open bug upstream for years as well.

teekert 20d ago
ok, that's concerning, if you post it here I'll vote for it (after confirming).
- JdeBP 19d ago
  The Launchpad bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils/+bug/2167206 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils/+bu... . The apparently related bug in the origin project is https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/2949 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/2949, filed back in 2022 and which sat unmoved for several years until, probably not coincidentally, almost the same time yesterday that this appeared on Hacker News.

jeffbee 20d ago

Reporting bugs before Ubuntu releases has never worked for me. They always land a bunch of major changes after the supposed "freeze" then they ignore all feedback because of the freeze. It's infuriating.

collinfunk 20d ago
Glad to hear that I am not alone. I feel like launchpad is totally ignored most of the time. To get a response on a buggy GNU coreutils patch of theirs [1], I had to mention it in a rust-coreutils bug months later... [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/2150305 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/215...
- jabl 19d ago
  I've been a Ubuntu user for about 20 years, and I file bugs every now and then on launchpad. I don't recall any of them ever being fixed. Maybe the bugs get traction if you have a service contract? Best to file bugs directly to upstream, but that of course means you should try it on the latest upstream version and not whatever version ubuntu ships, so it's more friction.
  - b112 19d ago
    Upstream for much is Debian, but of course Ubuntu forks from testing, and then modifies... But if you can identify it as a bug in a version in Debian, that's a good place to file, as Ubuntu will get the fix eventually.
gdevenyi 19d ago
Reporting bugs _at all_ in Ubuntu has never worked for me.

mixmastamyk 20d ago

I did, and the original dev of the component fixed it within a few days. It was straightforward, a backwards reading of a spec, reordered. The fix is still sitting unmerged many months later. This surprised me since I thought the project was in heavy bugfix/compat mode. I won’t touch it until I see some velocity on open bugs.

baq 19d ago
Fork Ubuntu and threaten their business model, that’ll get their attention. Only half joking.
- yjftsjthsd-h 19d ago
  Ubuntu is the fork; just use Debian.
- tjoff 19d ago
  There are plenty of Ubuntu forks?
- geokon 19d ago
  There's very little incentive to switch. When people release for Linux they almost always first/only test it works on Ubuntu - hence it's going to be the least buggy. (ex: GOG only seemingly tested games on Ubuntu) So the switching cost is buggy software. You'd need something radically different that brings enough new features to the table to make it worth it the switch and dealing with bad/non-existant support. I think something like Nix/Guix but with stable library versions that matches Ubuntu/Debian LTS ones 1-to-1 could get traction
  - drdexebtjl 19d ago
    Then you would have to embrace their bad decisions, such as this one, and if you do, what’s the point? Everything just needs to run from a container with their expected runtime environment.
  - pessimizer 19d ago

LtWorf 19d ago

My experience is that filing bug reports to ubuntu is a complete waste of time. Not sure if it's different for paying users.

Symbiote 19d ago

The bug report I filed several months ago hasn't been looked at. Many of these utilities were released and made the default for Ubuntu 26.04 LTS! There's a whole load of basic bugs reported and ignored: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-coreutils

rwmj 19d ago
They eventually fixed the one where it didn't sort properly, but it tooks months: https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12253 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12253 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12912 https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues/12912

oefrha 19d ago

This is certainly not just affecting interim releases. Ubuntu 26.04.1 has been released but is currently held back from do-release-upgrade for the LTS channel (which IIRC is unusual for a LTS's .1 release) due to rust-coreutils issue: > Users of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS will be offered an automatic upgrade to 26.04.1 LTS via Update Manager a couple of weeks following this release after some planned backports to address regressions in a recent version of rust-coreutils. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-26-04-1-lts-released/86808 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-26-04-1-lts-released/8...

mort96 19d ago

This is what made me move away from Ubuntu. Use LTS and encounter issues with outdated packages? "Well duh, you're supposed to upgrade to interim releases if you need remotely up to date software". Use interim releases and encounter bugs? "Well duh, it's an interim release. Of course it's a buggy mess, nobody uses those" Every Fedora release is intended to be solid and they come out twice a year.

sick_of_slop 19d ago
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here_to_learn 19d ago
I moved to Fedora from Ubuntu about a year ago for my laptop. My main motivation was not be defaulted to snap packages. I have had a great experience i.e it gets out of the way and it doesn't fall apart when I update stuff. I was worried about SELinux but find Fedoras defaults just fine and intuitive.
dirtikiti 17d ago
Keep using it, there's tons of bugs for you to find in Fedora. My favorite was a system-upgrade that installed broken video drivers, as recently as late 30x releases.

mkj 18d ago

The 26.04.01 upgrade LTS is delayed from it too, not just interim releases. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2026-August/000326.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2026-Augus... > Users of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS will be offered an automatic upgrade to 26.04.1 LTS via Update Manager a couple of weeks following this release after some planned backports to address regressions in a recent version of rust-coreutils.