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Siri was the first widely available AI bot but they forgot to open it to developers. The ecosystem would have grown a million fold in all these years Never und

by Kuyawa 12d ago

Siri was the first widely available AI bot but they forgot to open it to developers. The ecosystem would have grown a million fold in all these years Never underestimate the power of a bored programmer Siri turn on the lights Siri code a Doom clone in Swift Siri design a landing page for a Consulting Agency Siri summarize the latest news about AI Siri find a solution to the Riemann hypothesis Now that's an agent I'd use. Can we start with Siri for the terminal? $ Siri 'List the files in this folder'

Telemakhos 12d ago
Apfel filled that role: $ apfel "List the files in this folder." https://apfel.franzai.com/ https://apfel.franzai.com/
Dennip 12d ago
I'd settle for a siri that can at least turn the lights off properly. Google assistant on the nvidia shield left Siri in the dust years ago. Siri can't even chain basic commands in your smart home, it can't retain any kind of context (e.g. dim the lights...a bit more).
- Tagbert 12d ago
  You haven’t used the beta
  - c-hendricks 12d ago
    I tried "turn off the lights in [room a] and [room b]" in the new Siri app and rather than Siri saying they can't do compound commands they just turned off the lights in one of the two rooms listed. So, progress? Any agent with the Home Assistant MCP hooked up can do it fine.
  - fragmede 12d ago
    Now playing "Turn Off the Lights" by Teddy Pendergrass on Apple Music.
- dawnerd 12d ago
  That’s the weird part. For me it used to work very well, then after some update it just stopped. Typical Apple.
- verdverm 12d ago
  Siri is Gemini now (Semeni?) so expect similar stories from both major phone OS providers going forward, since we have lost more diversity in the mobile market (seems anti-trustworthy to me)
  - deleted 12d ago
    [deleted]
  - pram 12d ago
    Gemiri, clearly
    - verdverm 12d ago
      I hate to do this, but I decided to "search" google for "gemiri" just to see, and was presented with --- AI Overview The term "gemiri" is relatively rare and can refer to a few entirely different things depending on the context. Tech Slang (Gemini + Siri): It is a modern, informal portmanteau used by tech enthusiasts on social platforms like X (formerly Twitter). It describes a hypothetical or user-modified pairing of Google's Gemini AI with Apple's Siri assistant. Medical / Cancer Regimen: In oncology, GemIri is a shorthand medical code for a combination chemotherapy regimen consisting of Gemcitabine and Irinotecan However I thought semen-eye was more clever
- dbbk 12d ago
  The year is 2026 and "Siri mark my medication as taken" returns "I'm sorry I can't do that"
- prepend 12d ago
  I gave up on using Siri for my lights because 1/3 of the time it would get caught in a “who is speaking? Please go through the voice configuration to identify yourself.” This was frustrating for me as it always prompted “who cares? Just turn off the lights.” As well as would drive my parents and other guests batty.
  - smelendez 12d ago
    > This was frustrating for me as it always prompted “who cares? Just turn off the lights.” I guess you should be able to create a bucket of low-risk tasks that require zero authentication, like letting your guests turn off the lights. I do get why they are cautious, though, because in some cases this could be a security risk, like a burglar turning off lights from outside the home.
- xattt 12d ago
  Can we continue it to be somehow room-aware?
- mulderc 12d ago
  I have used Siri for years and turning on and off lights has never been an issue.
- Machado117 12d ago
  Just today running latest developers beta, I asked Siri to turn on the coffee machine and it started playing some song instead. I found out later that I had named the switch coffee machine plug. Similar thing happens when I ask Siri to play my favorite songs and it starts to play a song named favorite from my library
hodder 12d ago
The thing is, Apple will have never lost this opportunity. The distribution advantage of the user base is so deep they can basically always implement this at will.
- fennecbutt 12d ago
  Well, plus a generally technologically illiterate customerbase who believe the time Apple did something was the first time it's ever been done.
bubblegumcrisis 12d ago
What about: just not Siri at all. What about that. What about MrSunshine. I would rather have my own bot that I code. But no, vendor lock in.
- reaperducer 12d ago
  I want one named Bobby so I can shout "Dammit, Bobby! Turn off the dang lights!"
  - deleted 12d ago
    [deleted]
cobolcomesback 12d ago
Amazon did exactly this with Alexa skills and it hasn’t exactly been a booming success. Turns out that all of the things you listed as examples are stuff that most consumers don’t actually want or will use. “AI as a chat bot” has always been cool and fun in sci-fi movies, but it’s the least imaginative real world use for it. We need to move past it. > $ Siri 'List the files in this folder' Why in the world would I ever use this instead of just ‘ls’?
- bastawhiz 12d ago
  The problem with Alexa is that by the time it appeared anywhere other than Echo devices, it was already deeply enshittified. Siri is in your pocket, on your wrist, and in your ears. Alexa was stuck on your kitchen counter asking you if you wanted to try Amazon Music.
  - mhurron 12d ago
    > Siri is in your pocket, on your wrist, and in your ears and more often than not isn't reliable unless you have a midwestern US accent. Siri wasn't good. It still isn't good. Apple hasn't delivered on its promises with it and that's why it's being replaced with Gemini.
- jnsie 12d ago
  Alexa's big issue for me was that you had to remember very specific commands and unless you remembered the exact syntax you were out of luck. I genuinely think if the AI had been better and had been able to interpret commands better, skills would have been infinitely more useful.
- d675 12d ago
  distribution. MacBooks are everywhere and already used by devs
- ryandrake 12d ago
  > Turns out that all of the things you listed as examples are stuff that most consumers don’t actually want or will use. I've never understood this obsession with trying to invent the talking ship computer from Star Trek TNG. The purpose of the talking computer in the series was not to be a "cool 24th century technology advancement". It was a plot device to keep the story going and explain things to the audience. Having a voice conversation with a computer is terrible, imprecise, plodding UX. It's not a good interface, it's not a good invention, it's not good technology. Yet $billions are being spent to try to invent it.
usern20260720 12d ago
$ Siri 'rename this thousand of photos in these folders describing their content and make sure to use the same name for duplicates regardless of their size' I am waiting for this function to sort my folders
- fragmede 12d ago
  ChatGPT/Claude can do that today.
runjake 12d ago
> Can we start with Siri for the terminal? It already exists in macOS 27: fm(1) It is an extremely powerful tool, but here are the basics: # Ask the default on-device model fm respond 'Explain this shell error in plain English: permission denied' # Start a conversation fm chat --instructions 'Let's talk about economics.' # Use the larger Private Cloud Compute model fm respond --model pcc 'Are zebras and horses related?' # Pipe stuff to a model echo 'What is Swift?' | fm respond
- divbzero 12d ago
  fm = Foundation Models https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2026/334/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2026/334/
- runjake 12d ago
  I realized my piping stuff example wasn't good enough. Here's a better one: pbpaste | fm respond --instructions 'Summarize in five bullets. Preserve dates, owners, and decisions.'
- Kuyawa 11d ago
  This, this is it! Oh boy, here starts the joy... $ alias siri=fm $ siri 'Hello darkness my old friend...'
yndoendo 12d ago
Most people do not know tools to their problems already existed before AI. Example: "I can use AI to combine multiple PDFs into a single PDF."
- fennecbutt 12d ago
  Lmao. Okay let me just install a tool to do that because the OS doesn't usually have it built in in 2026. Oh, it's riddled with ads. Oh it's paid for. Etc. It's the same thing with the recent opening of knowledge thanks to AI. Before: search for recipe with search riddled with ads, find website riddled with ads cookies notification requests forced sign up and a million other dark patterns, then an entire fucking life story before the recipe. Now: "find me a good recipe for pasta that uses the stuff I have left over from the party last weekend, I don't mind buying a few more bits".
  - tzs 12d ago
    > Okay let me just install a tool to do that because the OS doesn't usually have it built in in 2026. On Mac select the PDFs in Finder. Right click on the selected files to bring up the context menu. Select "Create a PDF" from the Quick Actions submenu. This works with PDF files and image files as inputs.
    - fennecbutt 11d ago
      Okay, now use preview editor to add text...with an outline colour. ;)
kglrlkndkflcmnr 12d ago
The command might have changed. https://youtube.com/watch?v=W63oJtX0dP8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=W63oJtX0dP8
WalterGR 12d ago
That’s been around for ages. Documentation is here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sirikit https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sirikit For major platforms: “iOS 10.0+ / iPadOS 10.0+ / macOS 12.0+ / watchOS 3.2+” Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re missing?
pupppet 12d ago
Isn't Siri just a bunch of devs in a room editing conditional statements? They'd have to throw out the ecosystem once they embraced a real AI.
webninja 10d ago
Yes and even further, Apple added an LLM into iPhone 17s and higher but their terms of use forbid a wide number of categories of queries on it. Which means it can’t be prompted directly by any users.

by Kuyawa 12d ago

Telemakhos 12d ago

Apfel filled that role: $ apfel "List the files in this folder." https://apfel.franzai.com/ https://apfel.franzai.com/

Dennip 12d ago

I'd settle for a siri that can at least turn the lights off properly. Google assistant on the nvidia shield left Siri in the dust years ago. Siri can't even chain basic commands in your smart home, it can't retain any kind of context (e.g. dim the lights...a bit more).

Tagbert 12d ago
You haven’t used the beta
- c-hendricks 12d ago
  I tried "turn off the lights in [room a] and [room b]" in the new Siri app and rather than Siri saying they can't do compound commands they just turned off the lights in one of the two rooms listed. So, progress? Any agent with the Home Assistant MCP hooked up can do it fine.
- fragmede 12d ago
  Now playing "Turn Off the Lights" by Teddy Pendergrass on Apple Music.
dawnerd 12d ago
That’s the weird part. For me it used to work very well, then after some update it just stopped. Typical Apple.
verdverm 12d ago
Siri is Gemini now (Semeni?) so expect similar stories from both major phone OS providers going forward, since we have lost more diversity in the mobile market (seems anti-trustworthy to me)
- deleted 12d ago
  [deleted]
- pram 12d ago
  Gemiri, clearly
  - verdverm 12d ago
    I hate to do this, but I decided to "search" google for "gemiri" just to see, and was presented with --- AI Overview The term "gemiri" is relatively rare and can refer to a few entirely different things depending on the context. Tech Slang (Gemini + Siri): It is a modern, informal portmanteau used by tech enthusiasts on social platforms like X (formerly Twitter). It describes a hypothetical or user-modified pairing of Google's Gemini AI with Apple's Siri assistant. Medical / Cancer Regimen: In oncology, GemIri is a shorthand medical code for a combination chemotherapy regimen consisting of Gemcitabine and Irinotecan However I thought semen-eye was more clever
dbbk 12d ago
The year is 2026 and "Siri mark my medication as taken" returns "I'm sorry I can't do that"
prepend 12d ago
I gave up on using Siri for my lights because 1/3 of the time it would get caught in a “who is speaking? Please go through the voice configuration to identify yourself.” This was frustrating for me as it always prompted “who cares? Just turn off the lights.” As well as would drive my parents and other guests batty.
- smelendez 12d ago
  > This was frustrating for me as it always prompted “who cares? Just turn off the lights.” I guess you should be able to create a bucket of low-risk tasks that require zero authentication, like letting your guests turn off the lights. I do get why they are cautious, though, because in some cases this could be a security risk, like a burglar turning off lights from outside the home.
xattt 12d ago
Can we continue it to be somehow room-aware?
mulderc 12d ago
I have used Siri for years and turning on and off lights has never been an issue.
Machado117 12d ago
Just today running latest developers beta, I asked Siri to turn on the coffee machine and it started playing some song instead. I found out later that I had named the switch coffee machine plug. Similar thing happens when I ask Siri to play my favorite songs and it starts to play a song named favorite from my library

hodder 12d ago

The thing is, Apple will have never lost this opportunity. The distribution advantage of the user base is so deep they can basically always implement this at will.

fennecbutt 12d ago
Well, plus a generally technologically illiterate customerbase who believe the time Apple did something was the first time it's ever been done.

bubblegumcrisis 12d ago

What about: just not Siri at all. What about that. What about MrSunshine. I would rather have my own bot that I code. But no, vendor lock in.

reaperducer 12d ago
I want one named Bobby so I can shout "Dammit, Bobby! Turn off the dang lights!"
- deleted 12d ago
  [deleted]

cobolcomesback 12d ago

Amazon did exactly this with Alexa skills and it hasn’t exactly been a booming success. Turns out that all of the things you listed as examples are stuff that most consumers don’t actually want or will use. “AI as a chat bot” has always been cool and fun in sci-fi movies, but it’s the least imaginative real world use for it. We need to move past it. > $ Siri 'List the files in this folder' Why in the world would I ever use this instead of just ‘ls’?

bastawhiz 12d ago
The problem with Alexa is that by the time it appeared anywhere other than Echo devices, it was already deeply enshittified. Siri is in your pocket, on your wrist, and in your ears. Alexa was stuck on your kitchen counter asking you if you wanted to try Amazon Music.
- mhurron 12d ago
  > Siri is in your pocket, on your wrist, and in your ears and more often than not isn't reliable unless you have a midwestern US accent. Siri wasn't good. It still isn't good. Apple hasn't delivered on its promises with it and that's why it's being replaced with Gemini.
jnsie 12d ago
Alexa's big issue for me was that you had to remember very specific commands and unless you remembered the exact syntax you were out of luck. I genuinely think if the AI had been better and had been able to interpret commands better, skills would have been infinitely more useful.
d675 12d ago
distribution. MacBooks are everywhere and already used by devs
ryandrake 12d ago
> Turns out that all of the things you listed as examples are stuff that most consumers don’t actually want or will use. I've never understood this obsession with trying to invent the talking ship computer from Star Trek TNG. The purpose of the talking computer in the series was not to be a "cool 24th century technology advancement". It was a plot device to keep the story going and explain things to the audience. Having a voice conversation with a computer is terrible, imprecise, plodding UX. It's not a good interface, it's not a good invention, it's not good technology. Yet $billions are being spent to try to invent it.

usern20260720 12d ago

$ Siri 'rename this thousand of photos in these folders describing their content and make sure to use the same name for duplicates regardless of their size' I am waiting for this function to sort my folders

fragmede 12d ago
ChatGPT/Claude can do that today.

runjake 12d ago

> Can we start with Siri for the terminal? It already exists in macOS 27: fm(1) It is an extremely powerful tool, but here are the basics: # Ask the default on-device model fm respond 'Explain this shell error in plain English: permission denied' # Start a conversation fm chat --instructions 'Let's talk about economics.' # Use the larger Private Cloud Compute model fm respond --model pcc 'Are zebras and horses related?' # Pipe stuff to a model echo 'What is Swift?' | fm respond

divbzero 12d ago
fm = Foundation Models https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2026/334/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2026/334/
runjake 12d ago
I realized my piping stuff example wasn't good enough. Here's a better one: pbpaste | fm respond --instructions 'Summarize in five bullets. Preserve dates, owners, and decisions.'
Kuyawa 11d ago
This, this is it! Oh boy, here starts the joy... $ alias siri=fm $ siri 'Hello darkness my old friend...'

yndoendo 12d ago

Most people do not know tools to their problems already existed before AI. Example: "I can use AI to combine multiple PDFs into a single PDF."

fennecbutt 12d ago
Lmao. Okay let me just install a tool to do that because the OS doesn't usually have it built in in 2026. Oh, it's riddled with ads. Oh it's paid for. Etc. It's the same thing with the recent opening of knowledge thanks to AI. Before: search for recipe with search riddled with ads, find website riddled with ads cookies notification requests forced sign up and a million other dark patterns, then an entire fucking life story before the recipe. Now: "find me a good recipe for pasta that uses the stuff I have left over from the party last weekend, I don't mind buying a few more bits".
- tzs 12d ago
  > Okay let me just install a tool to do that because the OS doesn't usually have it built in in 2026. On Mac select the PDFs in Finder. Right click on the selected files to bring up the context menu. Select "Create a PDF" from the Quick Actions submenu. This works with PDF files and image files as inputs.
  - fennecbutt 11d ago
    Okay, now use preview editor to add text...with an outline colour. ;)

kglrlkndkflcmnr 12d ago

The command might have changed. https://youtube.com/watch?v=W63oJtX0dP8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=W63oJtX0dP8

WalterGR 12d ago

That’s been around for ages. Documentation is here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sirikit https://developer.apple.com/documentation/sirikit For major platforms: “iOS 10.0+ / iPadOS 10.0+ / macOS 12.0+ / watchOS 3.2+” Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re missing?

pupppet 12d ago

Isn't Siri just a bunch of devs in a room editing conditional statements? They'd have to throw out the ecosystem once they embraced a real AI.

webninja 10d ago

Yes and even further, Apple added an LLM into iPhone 17s and higher but their terms of use forbid a wide number of categories of queries on it. Which means it can’t be prompted directly by any users.