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Some roundabouts here have bike pass troughs on the side (obviously only works if there is no turn to that side) for speedy drivers like you. Other than that i

by herbst 21d ago

Some roundabouts here have bike pass troughs on the side (obviously only works if there is no turn to that side) for speedy drivers like you. Other than that it's obviously by design. There is no reason to speed at constant 50kph in a city. Nether for a car, motorbike or e-bike.

rightnutwingjob 19d ago
The think I don’t like about not being able to “speed” at 50kph(!) through a city is that, at least in Australia with it’s excessive compliment of bureaucratic Karens, is the 30 > 50 > 70 > 60 > 40 > 30 > SCHOOL ZONE > 80 > 40 > 50 > 30 nightmare. Which does two things, raises state revenue and causes drivers to spend way to much time concentrating on how fast they are going rather than driving to suit the conditions and paying focusing to what’s going on in front of them. And don’t get me started on the pot holes.
- sagarm 19d ago
  Sounds like you'd prefer just setting a single safe speed of 30?
- herbst 19d ago
  I mean sure I also hate that as a biker, however it's the one thing that keeps my mind from drifting off so I guess it's necessary.
  - rightnutwingjob 19d ago
    I cycle, ride motorbikes, and drive cars & vans. I’d rather be in flow state while doing any of those, than constantly be yanked out of it because I’m concerned I might be do 3kph over the legal speed limit.
- crote 18d ago
  That's just traditional design failure. A well-designed road network has higher-speed through roads and lower-speed local roads - and a school (serving the local neighbourhood) has zero business being near a through road. And to make it a two-for-one special: roads shouldn't need speed signs to begin with. The road should be designed for a certain speed, so that driving any faster feels uncomfortable and unsafe. If it is physically possible to drive 80 in a 30, something has gone terribly wrong already. Roundabouts are a great addition to this: you can't exactly speed through them, so you are forced to slow down.

by herbst 21d ago

rightnutwingjob 19d ago

The think I don’t like about not being able to “speed” at 50kph(!) through a city is that, at least in Australia with it’s excessive compliment of bureaucratic Karens, is the 30 > 50 > 70 > 60 > 40 > 30 > SCHOOL ZONE > 80 > 40 > 50 > 30 nightmare. Which does two things, raises state revenue and causes drivers to spend way to much time concentrating on how fast they are going rather than driving to suit the conditions and paying focusing to what’s going on in front of them. And don’t get me started on the pot holes.

sagarm 19d ago
Sounds like you'd prefer just setting a single safe speed of 30?
herbst 19d ago
I mean sure I also hate that as a biker, however it's the one thing that keeps my mind from drifting off so I guess it's necessary.
- rightnutwingjob 19d ago
  I cycle, ride motorbikes, and drive cars & vans. I’d rather be in flow state while doing any of those, than constantly be yanked out of it because I’m concerned I might be do 3kph over the legal speed limit.
crote 18d ago
That's just traditional design failure. A well-designed road network has higher-speed through roads and lower-speed local roads - and a school (serving the local neighbourhood) has zero business being near a through road. And to make it a two-for-one special: roads shouldn't need speed signs to begin with. The road should be designed for a certain speed, so that driving any faster feels uncomfortable and unsafe. If it is physically possible to drive 80 in a 30, something has gone terribly wrong already. Roundabouts are a great addition to this: you can't exactly speed through them, so you are forced to slow down.