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Or Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union, most things here seem to be alleged only.

JumpCrisscross 12d ago
> Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union How would Rockstar being shown to have had a mole in the union advance Rockstar's interests?
- tacomagick 12d ago
  Same reason why most companies don't want their workers to unionize?
  - JumpCrisscross 12d ago
    In response to a comment about "that one person who ruins the game for everyone," a reference to the mole, you said "or Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union." That implies there wasn't a mole, Rockstar made it up. I asked how making up a Rockstar mole in the union would advance any of Rockstar's goals at this junction.
    - limagnolia 12d ago
      Its not clear whether the OP was referring to the mole, or to the person(s) who were allegedly sharing confidential company information on an external, non-company Discord server. Rockstar claims that is why they fired them, though the fired employees allege it was to disrupt union organizing. Depending on ones point of view, either or both actors could be considered despicable.
      - robtherobber 12d ago
        I was indeed referring to the mole. I find that behaviour reprehensible.
    - tacomagick 12d ago
      Letting them dissolve or oppose the union?
      - JumpCrisscross 12d ago
        > Letting them dissolve or oppose the union? You're saying Rockstar would make up a mole that didn't exist, now, and that would somehow help it keep the union dissolved? What?
        tacomagick 12d ago
        Yeah pretty much?
        JumpCrisscross 12d ago
        > Yeah pretty much? Your hypothesis is Rockstar made up a fake mole, buried it, let the opposition find it and put it in a legal filing, and this somehow helps them. Got it. If this isn't a troll account I'm worried.
        tacomagick 12d ago
        If you do not think this is a possibility I guess you must see the world as sunshine and rainbows and corportaions working for our best interest, I don't know what to tell you. Evwrythinf can happen when your employee count is high.
        JumpCrisscross 12d ago
        > you must see the world as sunshine and rainbows and corportaions working for our best interest I'm literally not seeing the throughline from A to B. It's like saying a greedy capitalist nuked himself as a gotcha. Like, how does that help him? I'm not saying he isn't capable of it. I just literally don't see how it helps him.
        12d ago
abirch 12d ago
Since this is from court filings, that would be perjury if they can't back it up.
- tacomagick 12d ago
  Would not be the first time a company lied.
- gruez 12d ago
  You'd have to reference rockstar's exact filings, since it's possible to paint a narrative that suggests something, without outright lying.

> Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union How would Rockstar being shown to have had a mole in the union advance Rockstar's interests?

tacomagick 12d ago
Same reason why most companies don't want their workers to unionize?
- JumpCrisscross 12d ago
  In response to a comment about "that one person who ruins the game for everyone," a reference to the mole, you said "or Rockstar is simply lying to get rid of the union." That implies there wasn't a mole, Rockstar made it up. I asked how making up a Rockstar mole in the union would advance any of Rockstar's goals at this junction.
  - limagnolia 12d ago
    Its not clear whether the OP was referring to the mole, or to the person(s) who were allegedly sharing confidential company information on an external, non-company Discord server. Rockstar claims that is why they fired them, though the fired employees allege it was to disrupt union organizing. Depending on ones point of view, either or both actors could be considered despicable.
    - robtherobber 12d ago
      I was indeed referring to the mole. I find that behaviour reprehensible.
  - tacomagick 12d ago
    Letting them dissolve or oppose the union?
    - JumpCrisscross 12d ago
      > Letting them dissolve or oppose the union? You're saying Rockstar would make up a mole that didn't exist, now, and that would somehow help it keep the union dissolved? What?
      - tacomagick 12d ago
        Yeah pretty much?
        JumpCrisscross 12d ago
        > Yeah pretty much? Your hypothesis is Rockstar made up a fake mole, buried it, let the opposition find it and put it in a legal filing, and this somehow helps them. Got it. If this isn't a troll account I'm worried.
        tacomagick 12d ago
        If you do not think this is a possibility I guess you must see the world as sunshine and rainbows and corportaions working for our best interest, I don't know what to tell you. Evwrythinf can happen when your employee count is high.
        JumpCrisscross 12d ago
        > you must see the world as sunshine and rainbows and corportaions working for our best interest I'm literally not seeing the throughline from A to B. It's like saying a greedy capitalist nuked himself as a gotcha. Like, how does that help him? I'm not saying he isn't capable of it. I just literally don't see how it helps him.
        12d ago

abirch 12d ago

Since this is from court filings, that would be perjury if they can't back it up.

tacomagick 12d ago
Would not be the first time a company lied.
gruez 12d ago
You'd have to reference rockstar's exact filings, since it's possible to paint a narrative that suggests something, without outright lying.