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ChatGPT was the fastest growing software of all time not that long ago. Citing a bad AI product as evidence for lack of demand is saying the failure of the Home
by CuriouslyC 19d ago
ChatGPT was the fastest growing software of all time not that long ago. Citing a bad AI product as evidence for lack of demand is saying the failure of the Homer car was due to the fact that people don't like automobiles.
- brazukadev 19d agoDon't need to go far. Sora by the same company was the fastest incineration of dollars in software of all time.
- oblio 19d agoChatGPT was the fastest growing gratis software of all time. I wish we still lived in an age where things were sold to cover their costs. My money's on their product having 10% of its current user base if they charged 50 cents per month.
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- RussianCow 19d agoWhich doesn't matter if they're still not profitable.
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- saberience 19d agoYou could have said this about Google's Search product... How much would the average normie pay if Google suddenly charged? Sure the user-base would drop. And what? Did Google suddenly become a bad business? I find it funny how people have these strange and hypocritical viewpoints when it comes to OpenAI and Anthropic when the hyperscalars like Google, Amazon etc, followed these exact same kinds of playbooks for years and years.
- detourdog 19d agoProbably not a normie but I pay for Kagi search because it’s a lot like pre-seo google. So far haven’t tried any AI since OpenCYC.
- disgruntledphd2 19d agoThe labs have raised far, far more money than any of the hyperscalers ever did, with no sign of a route to monopoly profits.
- oblio 19d agoI think you, and many LLM fans, have a grossly distorted view of per unit SaaS costs vs per unit current LLM costs. Google Searches, once the infra setup was finished, were ridiculously cheap. Not the case for OpenAI & co. Inflation adjusted, launching most of Google's core services (Search, Gmail, Maps, etc) cost less than launching ChatGPT 5. Running them at similar scales is also much cheaper per user. There is a point at which it's just too much. Oh, Google and Amazon never had these kinds of humongous losses and they reached profitability much sooner.
- oblio 19d agoOh, besides my other comment. Yes, I'm against all predatory economic behavior. Selling user data, price dumping, platforms/walled gardens/monopolies/oligopolies/cartels/etc.
- simoncion 19d ago> ChatGPT was the fastest growing software of all time not that long ago. Google+ was the fastest-growing social network of all time not that long ago. When you're one of a pair of VC darlings that have effectively-infinite money because of -in part- handwavy promises to cure cancer and eliminate 90% of payroll everywhere, or if you're an established company that has total control over very widely used consumer products, you can do all sorts of things to manufacture amazing growth numbers. In the case of those VC darlings, we're seeing their shift towards providing their products that are most expensive to create exclusively to B2B customers and also the shift towards justifying the elimination of most of their R&D expenditure. Every company performs belt-tightening in advance of their IPO, [0] and those two are no exception. [0] ...which is when their finances will be scrutinized by the public and regulators...
- echelon 19d agoChatGPT is in my tool belt now, and I barely touch Google anymore. The world is fundamentally and momentously being rewired.