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So in trying to get one big corp from spying on you, you gave another the keys to the castle? I really don't understand how people give models run on somebody

by vrganj 21d ago

So in trying to get one big corp from spying on you, you gave another the keys to the castle? I really don't understand how people give models run on somebody else's server these wide-reaching permissions. Do you really trust Anthropic that much? The government that's hosting Anthropic?

ranguna 21d ago
"Giving the keys" doesn't necessarily mean outright cat the private key to Claude. You setup the key, configure SSH config to use it and you can just SSH to the machine without ever seeing the keys. Stop fear mongering unnecessarily.
- vrganj 21d ago
  I wasn't talking about the literal key files, I was talking about the metaphorical keys to the kingdom. No matter how you set it up, you're giving a cloud service the ability to SSH into your private network. Surely you must see the glaring security risk this creates?
  - sumedh 21d ago
    That is a fair point I should have done with a local LLM instead of Claude. But not exactly sure what the main issue, how can claude even access the router from the internet. Its not accessible.
  - dumberquestions 21d ago
    How is that any different from calling Claude from any device in your local network? Or is 2 devices that much worse than 1?
  - kadoban 20d ago
    You know you can monitor/reject things it attempts to do, right? For anything important I have it write scripts for what it wants to do, then I can review them for anything troubling.
  - ranguna 20d ago
    > Surely you must see the glaring security risk this creates? Enlighten me.
    - vrganj 20d ago
      I would recommend reading up on the basics here: https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/cybersecurity-101/cyberattacks/remote-code-execution/ https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/cybersecurity-101/cyberatt... https://www.varonis.com/blog/what-is-c2 https://www.varonis.com/blog/what-is-c2
      - ranguna 19d ago
        I don't see how that's isolated to using harnesses? Are you going to stop using your browser? It probably has note vulnerability than you can count

by vrganj 21d ago

ranguna 21d ago

"Giving the keys" doesn't necessarily mean outright cat the private key to Claude. You setup the key, configure SSH config to use it and you can just SSH to the machine without ever seeing the keys. Stop fear mongering unnecessarily.

vrganj 21d ago
I wasn't talking about the literal key files, I was talking about the metaphorical keys to the kingdom. No matter how you set it up, you're giving a cloud service the ability to SSH into your private network. Surely you must see the glaring security risk this creates?
- sumedh 21d ago
  That is a fair point I should have done with a local LLM instead of Claude. But not exactly sure what the main issue, how can claude even access the router from the internet. Its not accessible.
- dumberquestions 21d ago
  How is that any different from calling Claude from any device in your local network? Or is 2 devices that much worse than 1?
- kadoban 20d ago
  You know you can monitor/reject things it attempts to do, right? For anything important I have it write scripts for what it wants to do, then I can review them for anything troubling.
- ranguna 20d ago
  > Surely you must see the glaring security risk this creates? Enlighten me.
  - vrganj 20d ago
    I would recommend reading up on the basics here: https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/cybersecurity-101/cyberattacks/remote-code-execution/ https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/cybersecurity-101/cyberatt... https://www.varonis.com/blog/what-is-c2 https://www.varonis.com/blog/what-is-c2
    - ranguna 19d ago
      I don't see how that's isolated to using harnesses? Are you going to stop using your browser? It probably has note vulnerability than you can count