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I’m pretty confident this has already happened. Public models are behind their internal models and just above Chinese models. Only thing closing the gap is Chin

by ozgung 13d ago

I’m pretty confident this has already happened. Public models are behind their internal models and just above Chinese models. Only thing closing the gap is Chinese models pushing. I’m not American. There is no way I use the same model as US Army for $20. When we have Sol they have Astra. When we have Astra they have Nova, Nebula, Galaxia…

StayOut 13d ago
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- Gud 13d ago
  Who is this “everyone”? Speak for yourself.
benfortuna 13d ago
At this point models are advancing way faster than we can figure out how to use them effectively. So having a generational advantage is not nearly as important as knowing how to use that advantage.
- 9dev 13d ago
  …and that probably requires involvement of the broader academic world (for now), IMHO. I don’t think governments or even the US military can really compete staff wise with the combined force of researchers and the tech industry worldwide right now. No matter how much money you can pour into it, there are a lot more bright minds out there that are not working for the military than otherwise.
amelius 13d ago
> There is no way I use the same model as US Army for $20. Don't underestimate market pressure. If there are no regulations, why would a company give the US Army access to a better product?
- oceansky 13d ago
  They have hundreds billions dollars budgets.
  - amelius 13d ago
    Then they should have contracts with __all__ AI labs, not just one.
    - oceansky 13d ago
      Besides the current political dispute with Anthropic, they do.
r_lee 13d ago
I would not be surprised if they were a year behind because of all kinds of legacy systems and vetting requirements. If we're talking about the 3 letter agencies well then..
alright2565 13d ago
I can tell you right now, excluding specific teams that focus on software security, that you have access to better models than the US Army.

by ozgung 13d ago

StayOut 13d ago

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Gud 13d ago
Who is this “everyone”? Speak for yourself.

benfortuna 13d ago

At this point models are advancing way faster than we can figure out how to use them effectively. So having a generational advantage is not nearly as important as knowing how to use that advantage.

9dev 13d ago
…and that probably requires involvement of the broader academic world (for now), IMHO. I don’t think governments or even the US military can really compete staff wise with the combined force of researchers and the tech industry worldwide right now. No matter how much money you can pour into it, there are a lot more bright minds out there that are not working for the military than otherwise.

amelius 13d ago

> There is no way I use the same model as US Army for $20. Don't underestimate market pressure. If there are no regulations, why would a company give the US Army access to a better product?

oceansky 13d ago
They have hundreds billions dollars budgets.
- amelius 13d ago
  Then they should have contracts with __all__ AI labs, not just one.
  - oceansky 13d ago
    Besides the current political dispute with Anthropic, they do.

r_lee 13d ago

I would not be surprised if they were a year behind because of all kinds of legacy systems and vetting requirements. If we're talking about the 3 letter agencies well then..

alright2565 13d ago

I can tell you right now, excluding specific teams that focus on software security, that you have access to better models than the US Army.