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> A powerful technology that is out there for everyone to use comes with built-in pacing. In a way it’s the truest form of MAD or proliferation. I think this m
by bryan0 21d ago
> A powerful technology that is out there for everyone to use comes with built-in pacing. In a way it’s the truest form of MAD or proliferation.
I think this misunderstanding of MAD undermines his entire point. If everyone had equal access to nuclear weapons, our society would cease to exist rather quickly. It only takes a few bad actors to cause enormous harm.
I think he’s also naive to think that if open ai and anthropic were to stop development tomorrow then the problem is solved. As if there’s no one else that can and will quickly take their place. The real problem, which Dario is pointing out, is one of coordination. Everyone needs to agree to stop. That is the challenge.
- viccis 21d ago>Everyone needs to agree to stop. That is the challenge. These kinds of situations are incredibly common and where the government stepping in is the solution, but we were cursed to encounter this particular challenge with the most venal administration in history at the helm.
- baq 21d agoThere are governments plural which need to agree to stop and historically I can think of freon, leaded gasoline and IAEA and the latter didn't do as good of a job as it was meant to do (but arguably as good of a job as was politically possible)
- DennisP 21d agoAlso arms control agreements, which reduced the world's nuclear stockpiles by 90%. In principle we could do something similar for GPU farms, since they're not exactly easy to hide.
- FabHK 20d agoIndeed. Even supranational coordination should be possible, given that extinction means extinction for everyone, and your excellent examples show the possibility. But then, here we are, and the FT just reported: > Donald Trump rejects calls from tech bosses for AI slowdown > President denounces demands for regulation as existential fears over technology move to the centre of US politics
- vb-8448 21d agoEveryone agreeing on something is not even possible on small local scales, just imagine the situation on a global scale. It's not a challenge at all because it's not possible, it's just empty rhetoric to push their own agenda.
- DangitBobby 21d agoThere's nothing about MAD that requires few actors. This is a just-so story to justify the US and other major powers' monopoly on the weapon, ensuring smaller nations have no deterrence against us and other global nuisances.
- bryan0 21d agoThought experiment: everyone on the planet can create a nuclear weapon. How long do you think MAD would keep us safe?