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Alignment is a myth. Safety of whom? Humanity couldn't agree on common set of values for thousands of years and we're not gonna suddenly do that in the next ten

• esafak 20d ago
  Safety of humans!!! Simple things like not getting killed or enslaved. We could start there...
  • comboy 20d ago
    Which ones? Because many humans kill other humans rationalizing it by safety of other humans. I mean I know it seems simple, let's just be excellent to each other. Christianity got pretty far on a decent basic set of values. But it's never simple[1] 1. All the history books
  • nradov 20d ago
    But what if I want certain other humans to get killed?
    • sejje 20d ago
      Then we should still prioritize the safety of humans
      • sm-silversight 20d ago
        What if I want to smoke cigarettes? Or sell tobacco I grew artisinally to enthusiast tobacco smokers?
      • drdaeman 20d ago
        Which ones?
  • mcintyre1994 20d ago
    Surely all the AI companies working with the US Department of War shows this is nonsense though? Even if they have accepted Anthropic’s red line of no autonomous lethal weapons, which seems to be the strictest anyone tried to impose, that’s still leaving tonnes of room where they intend AI to help target and kill humans.
  • watwut 20d ago
    But Thiel wants people enslaved and Musk wants then killed. Altman wants them "obsolete" which means desolation. AfD wants people dead. Right wing men wants women without rights and docile. I could go on ...
  • sick_of_slop 19d ago
    The atomic bombings of Japan killed hundreds of thousands of people but most likely "saved" millions. What should the AI do when asked if it should nuke a country?
    • esafak 19d ago
      Run and present the numbers, then defer. This is not rocket science.
      • sick_of_slop 19d ago
        That wasn't the question.
        • esafak 19d ago
          Yes, it was: > What should the AI do when asked if it should nuke a country?
          • sick_of_slop 18d ago
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