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Fox News would not exist if people weren't scared of foreigners blowing up their house in Nebraska because some Saudi's crashed a plane into the WTC 11 years ag

Fox News would not exist if people weren't scared of foreigners blowing up their house in Nebraska because some Saudi's crashed a plane into the WTC 11 years ago.

nikcub 14y ago
Fox News launched in '96 and became the #1 cable news channel in 2000.
- mayneack 14y ago
  It also wasn't what it is today. The current fox news functions because of fear. Remember, in the last decade, MSNBC went from trying to beat fox by supporting Iraq more than them to what they are now, I wouldn't make a whole lot of conclusions of MSNBC programming today based on them circa 2000
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- tsotha 14y ago
  Oh, look, you left a mark.
tsotha 14y ago
Fox News exists because the other national broadcasters weren't serving half of the market. Not everyone is interested in getting the Democratic talking points of the day when they watch the news. That's not to say Fox has a high quality broadcast. It doesn't. But it's no worse than CNN or CBS, and it's certainly better than MSNBC.
- gnaritas 14y ago
  > Fox News exists because the other national broadcasters weren't serving half of the market Yes, the half that want to be lied to because reality is too distressing for them; so distressing in fact that they call reality liberal media bias.
  - tsotha 14y ago
    No, actually the half that's tired of being lied to by reporters with a liberal bias. Your "reality" isn't objective reality. Tell me, have you guys found Lucy Ramirez yet? In your, you know, reality?
    - gnaritas 14y ago
      Non-sequitur and False equivalence.
      - tsotha 14y ago
        No it isn't. That's exactly the sort of thing that makes conservatives distrust the liberal media. Being lied to for political gain.
        angrycoder 14y ago
        How are you guys making out with finding those WMD's in Iraq?
        tsotha 14y ago
        Why do you ask?
        adventured 14y ago
        Most evidence, including recent data, points to Saddam shipping them to Syria before the invasion began. Nobody has yet 'officially' explained what Saddam did with the WMD we know for a fact he had. Shipping the weapons to Syria is the only logical explanation for their sudden disappearance.
        gnaritas 14y ago
        False equivalence. Fox lies far more than any other station, finding a lie on CNN doesn't justify the "liberal media" non-sense conservatives have made up. Conservatives distrust the media because they don't like hearing things that don't jive with the belief system and reality is full of those things; it's as simple as that. Colbert nailed it when he said reality has a liberal bias, as did Stewart when he dubbed Fox bullshit mountain.
- namdnay 14y ago
  > it's no worse than CNN or CBS, and it's certainly better than MSNBC We haven't yet seen evidence of the head of CNN or CBS sending memos governing the angle under which the day's stories should be viewed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies#Internal_memos_and_e-mails http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies#...). However terrible CNN and CBS may be (take for example their outright cheerleading for the second iraq war), they remain organisations devoted to covering the news. Fox is devoted to controlling the news, which isn't the same thing.
  - tsotha 14y ago
    I don't find it controversial when a company's management gives editorial directives to its employees. I expect CNN and CBS do the same thing even if we don't have copies of the memos. Certainly it's not difficult to detect an editorial slant in their news coverage. Why didn't CBS fire Dan Rather immediately when Rathergate came to light? It's hard for me to imagine Fox easing out someone slowly after they'd left its reputation in taters. >However terrible CNN and CBS may be (take for example their outright cheerleading for the second iraq war), they remain organisations devoted to covering the news. I haven't seen much evidence of that, especially lately when they've used every possible angle after the Connecticut shooting in their full-throated advocacy of gun control.

Fox News would not exist if people weren't scared of foreigners blowing up their house in Nebraska because some Saudi's crashed a plane into the WTC 11 years ago.

nikcub 14y ago

Fox News launched in '96 and became the #1 cable news channel in 2000.

mayneack 14y ago
It also wasn't what it is today. The current fox news functions because of fear. Remember, in the last decade, MSNBC went from trying to beat fox by supporting Iraq more than them to what they are now, I wouldn't make a whole lot of conclusions of MSNBC programming today based on them circa 2000
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tsotha 14y ago
Oh, look, you left a mark.

tsotha 14y ago

Fox News exists because the other national broadcasters weren't serving half of the market. Not everyone is interested in getting the Democratic talking points of the day when they watch the news. That's not to say Fox has a high quality broadcast. It doesn't. But it's no worse than CNN or CBS, and it's certainly better than MSNBC.

gnaritas 14y ago
> Fox News exists because the other national broadcasters weren't serving half of the market Yes, the half that want to be lied to because reality is too distressing for them; so distressing in fact that they call reality liberal media bias.
- tsotha 14y ago
  No, actually the half that's tired of being lied to by reporters with a liberal bias. Your "reality" isn't objective reality. Tell me, have you guys found Lucy Ramirez yet? In your, you know, reality?
  - gnaritas 14y ago
    Non-sequitur and False equivalence.
    - tsotha 14y ago
      No it isn't. That's exactly the sort of thing that makes conservatives distrust the liberal media. Being lied to for political gain.
      - angrycoder 14y ago
        How are you guys making out with finding those WMD's in Iraq?
        tsotha 14y ago
        Why do you ask?
        adventured 14y ago
        Most evidence, including recent data, points to Saddam shipping them to Syria before the invasion began. Nobody has yet 'officially' explained what Saddam did with the WMD we know for a fact he had. Shipping the weapons to Syria is the only logical explanation for their sudden disappearance.
      - gnaritas 14y ago
        False equivalence. Fox lies far more than any other station, finding a lie on CNN doesn't justify the "liberal media" non-sense conservatives have made up. Conservatives distrust the media because they don't like hearing things that don't jive with the belief system and reality is full of those things; it's as simple as that. Colbert nailed it when he said reality has a liberal bias, as did Stewart when he dubbed Fox bullshit mountain.
namdnay 14y ago
> it's no worse than CNN or CBS, and it's certainly better than MSNBC We haven't yet seen evidence of the head of CNN or CBS sending memos governing the angle under which the day's stories should be viewed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies#Internal_memos_and_e-mails http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies#...). However terrible CNN and CBS may be (take for example their outright cheerleading for the second iraq war), they remain organisations devoted to covering the news. Fox is devoted to controlling the news, which isn't the same thing.
- tsotha 14y ago
  I don't find it controversial when a company's management gives editorial directives to its employees. I expect CNN and CBS do the same thing even if we don't have copies of the memos. Certainly it's not difficult to detect an editorial slant in their news coverage. Why didn't CBS fire Dan Rather immediately when Rathergate came to light? It's hard for me to imagine Fox easing out someone slowly after they'd left its reputation in taters. >However terrible CNN and CBS may be (take for example their outright cheerleading for the second iraq war), they remain organisations devoted to covering the news. I haven't seen much evidence of that, especially lately when they've used every possible angle after the Connecticut shooting in their full-throated advocacy of gun control.