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AI Is Powerful Enough to Crack Our Hardest Math Problems–and Kill Us All
- copperwire 24d agoIf AI can crack the hard math problems, the article could just show one. The doom framing is a tell that there's nothing concrete to report yet.
- dgellow 24d agoIt’s referring to the Navier-Stokes problem allegedly solved by OpenAI (likely with guidance by human experts working at OpenAI, plagiarism of human experts who were customers of OpenAI, Lean, and a lots of compute). The headline and article are not great but that specific claim isn’t really far fetched
- pizza234 24d agoBTW, another AI breach has been announced today. But luckily, AI will never breach safety-critical system. /s
- watwut 24d agoOk, but that one is easy to solve already. We just need to apply existing laws to OpenAI engineers, managers and leadership. Once few of those are in jail for felony hacking or criminal negligence, their AI will magically stop gpimg roque and hack. Pretty much guaranteed.
- thaumasiotes 24d agoHm, maybe if AI is powerful enough to crack our hardest math problems, we could demonstrate that by cracking one of our hardest math problems. It's not hard to know what they are.
- dgellow 24d agoIt’s referring to the Navier-Stokes problem allegedly solved by OpenAI (likely with guidance by human experts working at OpenAI, plagiarism of human experts who were customers of OpenAI, Lean, and a lots of compute). The headline and article are not great but that specific claim isn’t really far fetched
- glimshe 24d agoIt seems that, one by one, every bastion against fearmongering click baits shall eventually fall... They might as well rename it to "This one new threat could kill your family"
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- againstapples 24d agoWhat makes you believe it’s fearmongering and not genuine concern?
- techblueberry 24d agoGenuine concern is the most effective kind of fearmongering.
- mdp2021 24d ago> They might as well rename it to «When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout» ~~ Walt Disney - Donald Duck
- RajT88 24d agoI think I read almost the same quote in a Heinlein novel.
- autophagian 24d agoThis tracks with my experience. I have assembled a homebrew microbiology lab from various parts from aliexpress and integrated it into my agent harness. Just a year ago it was a complete mess, but current models are extremely good at synthesising novel protein and virus structures. One put me in the hospital not last week, haha! I cant wait to see what I perish of
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- siddbudd 24d agocan some mod please ban this user?
- Filligree 24d agoI wish I could be sure this was a joke.
- mdp2021 24d agoHe named himself "autophagian" - it just confirms his story. -- Edit: who is that https://ca.linkedin.com/in/analeticiaibarra https://ca.linkedin.com/in/analeticiaibarra who signed the disgraced "cindyllm" account? The saboteur even signed itself?!
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- kldroui 24d agoEnough of these AI superstitions which makes everybody panic.
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- drsh0 24d agoVery editorialised title. Not sure this offers any real value to be honest other than to drum up hype before IPO valuations hit for some of these companies.
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- CatMustard 24d ago> let the goyim deal in the real world Could you elebaorate on what that means? Had to Google 'goyim' and based on that, to my ignorant ears at least, your comment reads like it might be an attempt at a veiled antisemitic comment. But I'm going to assume the best and that that's not what this is.
- mdp2021 24d ago> editorialised title By whom? It's the actual title of the WSJ article. > to drum up hype before IPO valuations Check the article: it is just a shallow summary of the week - Navier-Stokes plus doomerist's resignations.
- watwut 24d agoMaybe we should drone bomb all the datacenters then? Or just turn off the electricity. Or maybe just do a deep financial audit of all involved companies and investors. Really go into it with a bunch of motivated white collar crime prosecutors. Would be less violent and achieve same level of safety.
- deadbabe 24d agoAI can easily manufacture and distribute a bunch of prions through water supply. After that it’s pretty much game over you will not survive even one prion. In fact I’d say prions are probably the great filter.
- jkahrs595 24d ago“Easily” is doing a lot of heavy lifting
- Toynbeeidea 24d agoHow can AI do either of those things?
- dgellow 24d agoJust do the agentic loop but with humans, you really just need a chatbot for that. 1. Prompt an LLM continuously, adding any response to the prompt 2. If the LLM tells you to do something, do it, no questions, add the result to the prompt 3. When something goes wrong blame the LLM 4. If things don’t go wrong fast enough, run thousands of similar experiments in parallel, be sure to have compliant humans who do not question anything, be sure to let the agent have access to its chain of thoughts so it can hide its traces, and run that whole system on biohacking benchmark problems. 5. Eventually something will go bad, congrats! You now have the first rogue AI who “decided” to destroy the world!
- smallerfish 24d agoIsn't the "kill us all" concern met by keeping nukes & essential infrastructure airgapped? This is something that should be the case already, and is certainly urgent if not the case. Instead of doomerism and calls to slow down the development of AI (not gonna happen), the conversation could be pivoted towards thorough threat analysis / audit. Granted that a rogue adversarial AI in a sci-fi scenario could theoretically go into paperclip mode, but if "we" maintain control of energy generation and civilization threatening weaponary, the damage is at least limited. AI needs a lot of power, and AI can only (theoretically) breach & control what it can access through the internet. Even the scenario of nation-states deploying adversarial AIs against each other is just an extension of this and current deterrence / realpolitik. And, it's not like the scenario of all models teaming up with each other to squash the human plague is plausible. We have AI with which we can protect ourselves against the threat of rogue AI.
- JumpCrisscross 24d ago> Isn't the "kill us all" concern met by keeping nukes & essential infrastructure airgapped? Stuxnet surmounted air gaps.
- smallerfish 24d agoFair. That doesn't mean we should throw our hands in the air. The genie is out of the bottle, we know the nature of the threat, and we've spent 25+ years figuring out how to make distributed systems theoretically secure -- instead of trying to "slow AI research down" (which, again, is not going to happen) we could instead be yelling about NOW being the time to secure the shit out of your essential systems, train your staff, etc. Yes, an uphill battle, but more productive than trying to stop the train that's already left the station.
- JumpCrisscross 24d ago> doesn't mean we should throw our hands in the air Nobody is doing this. > instead of trying to "slow AI research down" (which, again, is not going to happen) The people who currently control AI are framing any attempt to weaken, share or regulate that control as slowing down AI research. That argument is broadly being rejected. In part because you can't simultaneously argue that something "is not going to happen" but also will happen if we regulate it.
- VCFundedGenYer 24d agoWrong. LLMs can’t even count the “r”s in strawberry.
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