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Everytime I read GrapheneOS news I search for news related to Fairephone. It's such a shame that there's still no official plan for Fairephone to work on requir
by I_am_tiberius 22d ago
Everytime I read GrapheneOS news I search for news related to Fairephone. It's such a shame that there's still no official plan for Fairephone to work on requirements for GrapheneOS. The combination of those 2 would be fantastic. It would also open a big new market (I assume) for Fairephone so not sure why there seems no clear sign in that direction at all (to my knowledge).
- saligne 22d agoYou should search for the many times where GrapheneOS has stated they won't work with Fairphone
- mrd3v0 22d agoGiven the state of Fairphone hardware, software and business, it is not surprising.
- tcoff91 22d agoFor those of us out of the loop, could someone summarize the situation?
- bramhaag 22d ago> Fairphone has said they don't plan to add a secure element. It can be seen from their current devices that they don't fully keep up with privacy/security backports and lag a year behind on shipping yearly OS releases. They skip over the monthly and quarterly releases entirely. They replaced their own non-GMS Fairphone OS with a dramatically less secure /e/OS option in partnership with Murena. They clearly demonstrate that security and even privacy are not the priorities. https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480
- em-bee 22d agoThey replaced their own non-GMS Fairphone OS with a dramatically less secure /e/OS it sounds like they are saying that /e/OS is less secure than fairphone's own OS. with all criticism against /e/OS taken into account, i highly doubt that fairphone would have been able to make their own version of android more secure than /e/OS when they are not even interested in working on that.
- microtonal 21d agoIt starts with simply rolling major releases out earlier than /e/OS. Remember that to get security fixes for vulnerabilities not marked high/critical, you need the QPR/major updates. Those vulnerabilities may not be an immediate RCE, but they might get used in exploit chains after an RCE. Also, Fairphone and /e/OS will have many known RCEs, because they do not roll out embargoed patches like GrapheneOS and to some extend Samsung & Pixel do.
- em-bee 21d agoas if fairphone ever did that: they don't fully keep up with privacy/security backports and lag a year behind on shipping yearly OS releases so, again, how is /e/OS being behind on updates any worse than fairphone's own OS?
- microtonal 20d agoAndroid 16 was released on Fairphone 6 on March 16 2026. Yes, I know, way too late. The Android 16 build of /e/OS for Fairphone 6 was released on July 20 2026. Four months later. This was exactly the point of my comment.
- em-bee 20d agofairphone probably rolls out a stock android release with little change whereas /e/OS has to forward port all its changes and patches on all the phones they support. maybe taking 4 months is to much for that, but that's most likely a resource problem that can probably best be solved by buying more murena phones.
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- Telaneo 22d agoIt's because Fairphone doesn't fulfil GOS's hardware requirements. If Fairphone addresses that, there's no reason for GOS to not support a Fairphone device.
- fc417fc802 21d agoI don't understand the issue. If Fairphone wants GOS can't they just compile it themselves with whatever unsupported hardware based security features disabled? Ditto for any given end user. It's not as though we're talking about a device with hardware specs locked behind an NDA and drivers that only support outdated kernel versions.
- Telaneo 21d agoSimple. Fairphone doesn't want GOS. Forking GOS and porting it to a new device is a huge and unreasonable ask for an individual user. Even less so when you include the fact that you'll need to keep it up to date.
- fc417fc802 21d agoI understand that bringing AOSP to an unsupported device is a huge endeavor. But fairphone already has the driver situation sorted out. What's the complexity here? (Genuine question, I'd like to correct any misconceptions about the android ecosystem that I have.)
- josephg 21d agoWhy? Because of drivers? Don’t they already have Linux drivers for the fairphone? I wonder if fable or astra could wire everything up.
- imkac 21d agoAs a company that often lies, they won’t spend a single penny on this.
- jasonvorhe 22d agoEverytime I see Fairphone mentioned whenever there's news about GrapheneOS I'm confused as to why people keep on conflating both when they obviously have very different goals.
- Timshel 22d ago? Not conflating, just we want a phone with both goals ...
- pyaamb 21d ago+1
- andrepd 22d agoI think it's obvious that the target audience has a huge overlap...
- gpvos 21d agoHN readers aren't a huge demographic.
- foolin 21d agoA huge overlap in two groups would obviously be at most 100% of the smaller group.
- SecretDreams 21d agoIs there a huge demographic for grapheneOS and/or fairphone? Let alone one that doesn't overlap with the archetypes that post here?
- ntnsndr 21d agoPoster said huge overlap, not huge audience:) But I agree with the overlap. I use e/OS partly because I can run it on a Fairphone. I'd love to try Graphene.
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- sva_ 21d agoEvery fairphone I've seen to far the camera was kinda ass. Did it improve? Pixel phones usually have old Samsung sensors which are pretty damn decent.
- emaro 21d agoThe sensor of the Fairphone camera is good enough, the software processing is what's lacking. Imo, owner of an FP4.
- port11 20d agoPixel cameras seem to do tremendous amounts of software-based post-processing but specifically in the official Google app. My partner has tested some camera apps and nothing comes close to Google’s. So I imagine that’s one of the reasons for the disparity.
- drnick1 21d agoTo be honest the specs of the Fairphone are middling and the device is rather expensive for what you get. The Pixels are a much better value, especially with a series. If you want something truly high end, wait for the Motorola with official GOS support.
- varispeed 21d agoWithout support of alternative OS Fairphone is basically a landfill. Why would anyone buy this apart from novelty factor.
- armadyl 21d agoSupporting an alternative OS wouldn’t change the fate of Fairphone, imo. Most people don’t care to move away from the stock version of Android that comes with their phone or iOS.
- microtonal 21d agoThis isn't a hypothetical, Fairphone supports alternative OSes. Heck, you can even buy it with /e/OS in their store: https://www.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-plus-e-operating-system https://www.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-plus-e-operati...
- AstralSerenity 21d agoI would throw serious money at them both if this collaboration happened.
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