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But do you think this is our first rodeo with "XYZ has fundamentally shifted things and startups now start up faster"? RoR did the same, Bootstrap as well, and

But do you think this is our first rodeo with "XYZ has fundamentally shifted things and startups now start up faster"? RoR did the same, Bootstrap as well, and countless of other things. Don't get me wrong, I leverage these AI tools as well to be more productive, I'm not against using it or anything else. But I'm also old enough to know that eventually AI will be "old news" when the next hot topic comes around.

user43928 23d ago
That seems like comparing the internet to jQuery.
- embedding-shape 23d ago
  Only if you're actively inside of the hype-machine and don't see it from the outside with the experience of previously having been inside of the hype-machine.
  - ipsod 23d ago
    No. RoR lets you build a certain class of web apps faster. AI lets you build almost anything faster.
    - embedding-shape 23d ago
      Again, I'm not bashing AI and I'm much more productive with AI myself too, no need to try to defend something I'm not attacking...
      - ipsod 23d ago
        I'm not defending AI, I'm attacking your logic.
        embedding-shape 23d ago
        The logic was/is "other topics been popular on the HN frontpage in the past and their advocates have made bunch of claims about their topics, and eventually it'll die down too, like the others did", that's hardly under attack here as you're on some wild tangent right now.
ChickeNES 23d ago
> But do you think this is our first rodeo with "XYZ has fundamentally shifted things and startups now start up faster"? RoR did the same, Bootstrap as well, and countless of other things. I really don't understand anyone who can say something like this with a straight face. Comparing AI to Bootstrap? I...
- pibaker 23d ago
  Both have sped up front end development at the cost of making half of the internet look the same.
  - ranger_danger 23d ago
    I don't think it's fair to blame AI just because people aren't prompting unique design elements into their vibe-coding.
    - tripzilch 22d ago
      Doing that would negate productivity gains for the users that prompt it for things outside their expertise.
      - ranger_danger 22d ago
        I'm not convinced it would be completely negated... maybe slowed down a bit, but sure.
- davenci 22d ago
  It must be some sort of denial playing into this

user43928 23d ago

That seems like comparing the internet to jQuery.

embedding-shape 23d ago
Only if you're actively inside of the hype-machine and don't see it from the outside with the experience of previously having been inside of the hype-machine.
- ipsod 23d ago
  No. RoR lets you build a certain class of web apps faster. AI lets you build almost anything faster.
  - embedding-shape 23d ago
    Again, I'm not bashing AI and I'm much more productive with AI myself too, no need to try to defend something I'm not attacking...
    - ipsod 23d ago
      I'm not defending AI, I'm attacking your logic.
      - embedding-shape 23d ago
        The logic was/is "other topics been popular on the HN frontpage in the past and their advocates have made bunch of claims about their topics, and eventually it'll die down too, like the others did", that's hardly under attack here as you're on some wild tangent right now.

ChickeNES 23d ago

> But do you think this is our first rodeo with "XYZ has fundamentally shifted things and startups now start up faster"? RoR did the same, Bootstrap as well, and countless of other things. I really don't understand anyone who can say something like this with a straight face. Comparing AI to Bootstrap? I...

pibaker 23d ago
Both have sped up front end development at the cost of making half of the internet look the same.
- ranger_danger 23d ago
  I don't think it's fair to blame AI just because people aren't prompting unique design elements into their vibe-coding.
  - tripzilch 22d ago
    Doing that would negate productivity gains for the users that prompt it for things outside their expertise.
    - ranger_danger 22d ago
      I'm not convinced it would be completely negated... maybe slowed down a bit, but sure.
davenci 22d ago
It must be some sort of denial playing into this