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To be fair, many of the folks on this site probably don't much care either. If you've got an Apple developer license, you can put rather a lot on your phone tha
by jsolson 14y ago
To be fair, many of the folks on this site probably don't much care either. If you've got an Apple developer license, you can put rather a lot on your phone that Apple wouldn't let through the store.
... and of course, if you Jailbreak your phone you can put anything you damn well please on there.
- w1ntermute 14y ago> many of the folks on this site probably don't much care either. Because most of the people on this site aren't actually hackers, they're businessmen who use technology to make money. The "hacker" label is just used to appear hip.
- lbotos 14y agoI don't know if it's selection bias at work but I've always felt that this community had a large group of influential and actual hackers. From low level stuff to language maintainers to people who worked on space shuttles. If anything, the fact that I rub e-elbows with these folks is a great feeling. In the company of giants, if you will.
- marshray 14y agoAgree. There's a really special mix on this board that makes it what it is. I've seen quite a few legit hackers posting here, for many definitions of 'hacker'.
- jsolson 14y agoThat may well be, but you can't dismiss someone as "not a hacker" simply because they make a different OS choice than you might. Even hackers have priorities. I'm definitely not a businessman. I'm a rank-and-file engineer for Amazon, and part of the reason I stick with that is that it gives me spare time to hack on random shit or learn some random math. I still use (and develop for) iOS for two reasons. First, when I'm not hacking I think it's a nicer OS than the competition. Second, when I am hacking on things, I think it's a nicer OS to develop for. As a hacker I can call all the private APIs I like, run in the background, fork of child processes, and really just generally make a mess of things. Oh, and I don't have to do any of it in Java (which after a day of work is a welcome relief).
- w1ntermute 14y ago> Even hackers have priorities. I would say that this is incorrectly worded. People have priorities, and those priorities show whether they truly have the hacker spirit or not. > First, when I'm not hacking I think it's a nicer OS than the competition. This already exposes that you are not a hacker. If you were, you would value the increased hackability and customizability that Android gives you, rather than the my-way-or-the-highway approach taken by iOS. The fact that you think iOS is nicer than the competition means that you aren't a hacker (in the original sense of the word). > when I am hacking on things, I think it's a nicer OS to develop for. As a hacker I can call all the private APIs I like, run in the background, fork of child processes, and really just generally make a mess of things. Again, this shows you are not truly a hacker. Part of the hacker ethos is sharing, and iOS restricts how you can share by not allowing those "private" APIs to be used in apps published on the App Store. > I don't have to do any of it in Java (which after a day of work is a welcome relief). This is an issue, but I would consider it a minor one compared to the other, more important problems.
- ryanmolden 14y agoLuckily we have people here who can spot "real" hackers and make such pronouncements, smh.
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- wluu 14y agoAll developers with an MSDN account, have a free 1 yr subscription to both the Windows 8/Windows Phone 8 store to deploy apps. With a Dev account, you can, like with Apple deploy anything you like to your Dev unlocked Windows Phone 8 phone(s).
- jsolson 14y agoSure. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. I just don't have experience on that side of the fence.