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1M cached tokens on deepseek is $0.006, the big labs can't sell anywhere close to this, they have funders expecting returns and huge overhead. btw I've had a t

1M cached tokens on deepseek is $0.006, the big labs can't sell anywhere close to this, they have funders expecting returns and huge overhead. btw I've had a ton of fun with the new deepseek today, I was waiting for my OpenAI 5h limit reset and decided to give it some problems for fun, got pretty great results. Tried some harder problems and still got great results. I don't expect it to be Sol class or anything but I really didn't expect it to be anywhere near this good so we'll see where it ends up. And it's really fun throwing crazy amount of tokens at the wall for ~free instead of watching the subscription limits tick closer while your agents churn away.

cmrdporcupine 24d ago
Yep. 4.1 Flash is good enough for most routine coding things, but it also makes up for a lot of weakness by being so fast (and cheap of course). I'm willing to tolerate babysitting things a lot more if I know I'll get almost instant results.
- eru 24d ago
  You could also have eg Sol do the babysitting.
  - cmrdporcupine 23d ago
    tbh i'm not really finding I need to. It's seriously quite impressive.
user43928 24d ago
That's 1/3 of GPT 5.6 Luna. It seems rather close to me. But great that we have a new leader in performance/price in that segment.
eru 24d ago
I did a lot of that kind of work with the older version of DeepSeek before they upped the prices. For example, it was quite good to get a decent Sashiko review. Sashiko is a Linux kernel review agent with interchangeable LLM driver. It's very good, but it eats tokens like crazy.
eru 24d ago
> 1M cached tokens on deepseek is $0.006, the big labs can't sell anywhere close to this, they have funders expecting returns and huge overhead. Losing most of your customers tends to sharpen the mind a bit. They could eg stop pushing out the absolute frontier for a while and focus on making what they have run cheaper. Or they go and do more lobbying against China. Or a million other little things that take more than 30 seconds to come up with when writing a HN comment, but less than a week for someone who's smart and paid to do this for a living.

cmrdporcupine 24d ago

Yep. 4.1 Flash is good enough for most routine coding things, but it also makes up for a lot of weakness by being so fast (and cheap of course). I'm willing to tolerate babysitting things a lot more if I know I'll get almost instant results.

eru 24d ago
You could also have eg Sol do the babysitting.
- cmrdporcupine 23d ago
  tbh i'm not really finding I need to. It's seriously quite impressive.

user43928 24d ago

That's 1/3 of GPT 5.6 Luna. It seems rather close to me. But great that we have a new leader in performance/price in that segment.

eru 24d ago

I did a lot of that kind of work with the older version of DeepSeek before they upped the prices. For example, it was quite good to get a decent Sashiko review. Sashiko is a Linux kernel review agent with interchangeable LLM driver. It's very good, but it eats tokens like crazy.

eru 24d ago

> 1M cached tokens on deepseek is $0.006, the big labs can't sell anywhere close to this, they have funders expecting returns and huge overhead. Losing most of your customers tends to sharpen the mind a bit. They could eg stop pushing out the absolute frontier for a while and focus on making what they have run cheaper. Or they go and do more lobbying against China. Or a million other little things that take more than 30 seconds to come up with when writing a HN comment, but less than a week for someone who's smart and paid to do this for a living.