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The things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well.
by millipede 2mo ago
The things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well.
- runjake 2mo agoBased on supply chain leaks, it's pretty safe to assume 12 GB memory with up to 100GB/sec memory bandwidth at best. The A19 Pro had 12 GB and was around 77GB/sec memory bandwidth for reference. If I was a betting man, I'd say the memory bandwidth on the A20 Pro is the same.
- quentindanjou 2mo agoIf I didn't dream it, I think their presentation said something like 50% increase so you should be quite right probably around ~110GB/sec
- carstn 2mo agoRumors suggested a wider memory bus on A20 Pro.
- SirMaster 2mo agoBut they said the memory bandwidth was double the previous generation.
- halJordan 2mo agoAnd here we are back to the crux. Sure would be nice if the released material was verifiable instead of "trust me shitstick"
- josephg 2mo agoWhy? What do you do on your phone that makes you care about memory bandwidth?
- bel8 2mo agoin 2026? LLM performance, for one.
- mrheosuper 2mo agoeverything. Faster memory, fast processing, making everything smoother, and you can idle faster.
- ChrisRR 2mo agoThis is apple. They're the kings of "memory bandwidth is 2x... (within a very specific set of test cases)"
- dgellow 2mo agoWhat do you do with your phone that requires you to know the memory details? Genuine question, I have absolutely no idea how much memory my iPad or phone have and don’t see why I would need to know
- WarmWash 2mo agoRunning not-particularly-useful local models.
- millipede 2mo agoThe models are pretty useful, especially when it comes to asking things you may not want to go over a network.
- o_m 2mo agoI only care about it because I'm waiting for a MacBook Neo with more than 8gb of memory.
- wang_li 2mo agoI'm waiting for a software release for my iPhone 16 Pro Max that will let me plug in a dock that has an attached SSD, keyboard, mouse, and display, and an option to pop up on my phone to reboot into MacOS. Also, if they make a neo 2 from the A19 with 12 GB that'd be cool.
- selectodude 2mo agoI’m pretty sure the efficiency cores in the A20 Pro have more juice than the performance cores in my M1 Pro laptop.
- josephg 2mo agoYou’ll be waiting awhile. iPads have had desktop M-series CPUs for ages now, and you still can’t run macOS on an iPad. It’s just a software restriction. I’m sure they have macOS running on iPhones and iPads internally, probably both through a VM and natively. But it’s very Apple to block this use case.
- ErneX 2mo ago12GB of ram and double the memory the bandwidth over the previous model.
- reaperducer 2mo agoThe things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well. Since 1984, Apple has targeted regular people, not spec nerds. You're not the market.
- robocat 2mo agoRegular people optimise for silly numbers too. Threadcount, Watts, cubic inches: different products use different misleading measures.