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I'm continually perplexed by people's perception that AI would be incapable of generating new ideas or discoveries, even years ago. Deterministic machines do t

I'm continually perplexed by people's perception that AI would be incapable of generating new ideas or discoveries, even years ago. Deterministic machines do the same stuff again and again. Add entropy and they do new original stuff. Add a checker or verifier and you can filter for new stuff that is better. At the very least here, you now have evolution. There is nothing that is particularly compelling about a system that can generate new stuff that is an improvement. What's compelling if anything is the verifier, but that isn't particularly any more mysterious than LLM output already. At least not nearly as mysterious as "Meat brains have a magical ability to manifest original ideas".

lolakutty 1mo ago
>Meat brains have a magical ability to manifest original ideas.. No, no. Any random sentence generator can generate original idea. Actually it is said that randomness contain all the answers. You don't need a "meat brain" to do that.
no-name-here 1mo ago
> I'm continually perplexed by people's perception that AI would be incapable of generating new ideas or discoveries, even years ago. It's still an incredibly common claim, at least on places like Reddit. Perhaps Doctrow has been pushing the idea or something? And Zitron claimed that years ago AI was already as good as it was ever going to be - like Zitron, I imagine a lot of people haven't changed their opinions in recent years even as AI advanced.