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Sure, and epecially when the child is a bit older then introducing a "preschool" situation for a few hours a day is probably valuable. But having an infant in a
by SoftTalker 1mo ago
Sure, and epecially when the child is a bit older then introducing a "preschool" situation for a few hours a day is probably valuable. But having an infant in a daycare for 8-10 hours a day is probably not.
- estearum 1mo agoI would bet that approximately 100% of people advocating for funded childcare programs++ would want to avoid the "putting infants in daycare for 8-10hrs/day" scenario.
- moduspol 1mo agoIn what way? I've seen many people advocate for universal childcare as a way to get mom back to working full time as quickly as possible. I've also seen it framed as a way of leveling the playing field, so women are less disadvantaged from men as a result of childbirth / care. I find that, if anything, there is little to no stigma to getting your child in daycare ASAP after maternity leave ends and going back to working full time. That's "infants in daycare for 8-10hrs/day".
- jimbokun 1mo agoWhy do you think that?
- greenowl 1mo agoIt's absolutely bonkers how normalized infant and toddler daycare has become in today's society.
- MaxHoppersGhost 1mo agoIt's honestly very sad to me.
- greenowl 1mo agoThe saddest part to me is when families feel "forced" into full time daycare. As if there was no choice other than both parents continuing to work full time jobs.
- triceratops 1mo agoI kinda think at least some form of part-time toddler daycare is necessary. For the stay-at-home parent's sanity.
- hdgvhicv 1mo agoIf it were more common than you’d have your Neighbours kid for a few hours while they have some sanity and vice versa. This is a long way from 10 hours a day of outsourcing when the kid is only awake for 12 hours. Childcare is for the benefit of the companies who can then extract value from more workers.
- triceratops 1mo ago100% agree if you have suitable neighbors (parents with similar age children) this is an ideal arrangement. Not everyone is so lucky.
- hdgvhicv 1mo agoBecause most nearby parents will be working 8 hours plus a day and shipping the kids to full time childcare I was lucky with my kids, we don’t live somewhere like London, we could book 4 hour periods a couple of times a week and didn’t need two full time workers.
- greenowl 1mo agoCan't this just be the other spouse? When they are home from work then the stay-at-home parent can have a break. What's so difficult about this?
- triceratops 1mo agoThen the working parent never gets a break for themselves? The couple never spends time together alone? (Or only after the kid's bedtime when they're both absolutely exhausted) Of course some people do this. But it's hard.
- SepiaSapient 1mo ago"Local man shocked that human child rearing is communal"
- nkrisc 1mo agoSome kind of infant and toddler childcare is necessary, whether it’s daycare, friends, family, or neighbors. Trying to raise an infant or toddler without other people caring for them at least some of the time will make most people slowly go insane.
- doubled112 1mo agoI have a 12 and 9 year old, and I've been 750km from family since the oldest was one. We didn't really have anybody to watch them. Can confirm. The excitement when school started was real. Same when my wife and I realized leaving them by themselves for short periods of time was probably doable. I noticed I was pretty triggered when I heard a friend complain "it's hard to go a weekend without supports". She meant her parents. Sure, you should try a decade...
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- danans 1mo ago> But having an infant in a daycare for 8-10 hours a day is probably not. That's a different problem that would be better addressed by mandatory paid parental leave and universal healthcare - so new parents can afford not to work while their child is an infant.
- greenowl 1mo ago8-10 hours a day in a daycare is a bad idea for much longer than just the infant stage.