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Well, another one discovering strongly typed compiled languages. Apparently Tiger Beetle also started in node, before the founder reached out for Zig. Meanwhi

by pjmlp 1mo ago

Well, another one discovering strongly typed compiled languages. Apparently Tiger Beetle also started in node, before the founder reached out for Zig. Meanwhile all JavaScript tooling is being rewritten in Go and Rust. Maybe it is time to finally grasp it should be left to the browser?

odilelof 1mo ago
[flagged]
jdboyd 1mo ago
Or maybe that it should be replaced in the browser with something better as well?
- aeve890 1mo ago
  MS had VBS. Just sayin
  - lmz 1mo ago
    MS(IE) had ActiveScript, of which VBS was just one implementation (although it was the bundled one that always existed). People have built integrations for stuff like Tcl, Python, or Perl, making them available to the browser. Example: https://perlhacks.com/2026/07/remember-perlscript-when-internet-explorer-could-run-perl/ https://perlhacks.com/2026/07/remember-perlscript-when-inter...
    - mitxela 1mo ago
      Linked article is AI slop. Am I going crazy?
      - lmz 1mo ago
        Well the actual pages from that time are mostly gone and that was what I could find with some examples and explanatory text.
- phlogisticfugu 1mo ago
  1990s calling: there's a language which is strongly typed, and will compile to bytecode that runs both on your server and in your browser as a sort of universal binary. It's named after a type of coffee...
  - mitxela 1mo ago
    JavaScript? WASM? Browsers don't run Java any more
zem 1mo ago
addressing the category error rather than the specifics of whether js belongs in the backend - just because a language is theoretically general purpose, it doesn't mean it's the best tool for the job. in the case of language tooling in particular, the operations involved are fairly well understood, and they do not really play to the strengths of javascript (or indeed of any of the currently popular dynamic languages), because what you want is optimised performance rather than exploration of ambiguous business rules, or runtime adaptation to the shape of user data, or consuming untyped blobs from a remote API, or any of the range of other problems backend js is indeed decently useful for.

by pjmlp 1mo ago

odilelof 1mo ago

[flagged]

jdboyd 1mo ago

Or maybe that it should be replaced in the browser with something better as well?

aeve890 1mo ago
MS had VBS. Just sayin
- lmz 1mo ago
  MS(IE) had ActiveScript, of which VBS was just one implementation (although it was the bundled one that always existed). People have built integrations for stuff like Tcl, Python, or Perl, making them available to the browser. Example: https://perlhacks.com/2026/07/remember-perlscript-when-internet-explorer-could-run-perl/ https://perlhacks.com/2026/07/remember-perlscript-when-inter...
  - mitxela 1mo ago
    Linked article is AI slop. Am I going crazy?
    - lmz 1mo ago
      Well the actual pages from that time are mostly gone and that was what I could find with some examples and explanatory text.
phlogisticfugu 1mo ago
1990s calling: there's a language which is strongly typed, and will compile to bytecode that runs both on your server and in your browser as a sort of universal binary. It's named after a type of coffee...
- mitxela 1mo ago
  JavaScript? WASM? Browsers don't run Java any more

zem 1mo ago

addressing the category error rather than the specifics of whether js belongs in the backend - just because a language is theoretically general purpose, it doesn't mean it's the best tool for the job. in the case of language tooling in particular, the operations involved are fairly well understood, and they do not really play to the strengths of javascript (or indeed of any of the currently popular dynamic languages), because what you want is optimised performance rather than exploration of ambiguous business rules, or runtime adaptation to the shape of user data, or consuming untyped blobs from a remote API, or any of the range of other problems backend js is indeed decently useful for.