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Makes sense. I had always been curious on why Tailscale hasn't creating agent-oriented features. It's obvious to me that Tailscale is at the best position (AFA

Makes sense. I had always been curious on why Tailscale hasn't creating agent-oriented features. It's obvious to me that Tailscale is at the best position (AFAIK) to capitalize on agents demand. Their connectivity product is unique. And it's a natural fit to connecting long-running agents instance across the Internet.

transitorykris 26d ago
These are two different layers in the stack that do two different jobs. Agent to agent communication across remote machines is definitely lubricated with tailscale, I’m not sure what value moving up the stack would bring at this stage? My read here isn’t about connecting to remote machines in the sense of ssh, but presenting a unified view across herdr instances running on multiple remote machines. This stinks of the same enshittification moves Docker made 10 years ago.
- bigcat12345678 26d ago
  Tailscale's connectivity solutions should allow private connection between agents and between human-agents, by layering on top of the existing connectivity substrate. (I was stating "general impression", and I haven't looked into details yet.) What I need is to have a general solution to connect me to my agents running somewhere. The motivation is that any hosted solution deprives me of ownership of my data. And I am planning to share more private data with my agents, that cannot be done to have hosted agents today. (I plan to build a hosted solution myself where users can declarative define their own agents, and completely own their own data without my service save anything, I'll ask users to connect to their own storage solutions like Google doc) I of course can build everything myself. But I think a tailscale offering could be very convenient. I am guessing cloud flare should have building blocks of their own, but it's a different layer than tailscale's.
mintflow 26d ago
This is the motivation I built the app NovaScale with in app tailnet connectivity I was thinking the herdr remote features is nice to have in my app, given this herdr multi machine support, perhaps I need to reconsider how I integrate it in the future
kkapelon 26d ago
> Their connectivity product is unique There is also netbird, netmaker, zerotier and several others.

transitorykris 26d ago

These are two different layers in the stack that do two different jobs. Agent to agent communication across remote machines is definitely lubricated with tailscale, I’m not sure what value moving up the stack would bring at this stage? My read here isn’t about connecting to remote machines in the sense of ssh, but presenting a unified view across herdr instances running on multiple remote machines. This stinks of the same enshittification moves Docker made 10 years ago.

bigcat12345678 26d ago
Tailscale's connectivity solutions should allow private connection between agents and between human-agents, by layering on top of the existing connectivity substrate. (I was stating "general impression", and I haven't looked into details yet.) What I need is to have a general solution to connect me to my agents running somewhere. The motivation is that any hosted solution deprives me of ownership of my data. And I am planning to share more private data with my agents, that cannot be done to have hosted agents today. (I plan to build a hosted solution myself where users can declarative define their own agents, and completely own their own data without my service save anything, I'll ask users to connect to their own storage solutions like Google doc) I of course can build everything myself. But I think a tailscale offering could be very convenient. I am guessing cloud flare should have building blocks of their own, but it's a different layer than tailscale's.

mintflow 26d ago

This is the motivation I built the app NovaScale with in app tailnet connectivity I was thinking the herdr remote features is nice to have in my app, given this herdr multi machine support, perhaps I need to reconsider how I integrate it in the future

kkapelon 26d ago

> Their connectivity product is unique There is also netbird, netmaker, zerotier and several others.