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Omg, I love how the first examples just show how easy you can fake things. Fake being at a party with your friends. Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake

Omg, I love how the first examples just show how easy you can fake things. Fake being at a party with your friends. Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake it. The sad part is my mother would love "remixing" my old child photos of me.

echelon 18d ago
This is an artificial modern world problem. For thousands of years people have told embellished stories, and humanity has thrived upon it. Tall tales, fish stories. Heck, that's still the average person's experience unless they've really worked their critical thinking muscles. Today's working adults are used to the short thirty-year "safe space" of smartphones and internet. We grew up in a temporary meta stability where "truth" was "recorded" and could be "relied upon", and now that the fundamentals are shifting, we're complaining that the physical world is amenable to storytelling and imagination once again. Cry me a river. This is awesome and is a direct consequence of everything I ever wanted the future to be: magical creative superpowers. I wanted to graduate into the world that is emerging now rather than spend the first third of my career in incrementalism and slow progress. 2008 - 2020 sucked. What a total lull. AI is healing these things and putting us back on track for the jet pack future we grew up dreaming about. It's taking us back to a creative world without shitty platforms controlling what we say and do, and without a ceiling on what we can accomplish. It feels like every day we're unwrapping a new present or several. Not small things, but reality-shattering things that fill me with inspiration to build and explore. It's so much fun.
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- RobRivera 18d ago
  [Cry me a River] No thank you
  - sbarre 18d ago
    Good, because we need that river to make AI images!
- AyanamiKaine 18d ago
  To tell a story, to even exaggerate one is something completely different from providing "prove" it did really happen exactly the way it was told. There are many many people that will take an image as an undeniable fact of the real world. While before you could fake(photoshop) things it took more time then 30 seconds. I wouldnt regulate these aspects, because I believe pandoras box is already wide open. Regulating anything wouldn't change much.
  - hirvi74 17d ago
    Pandora's box is already wide open? The lid was blown off the hinges long before AI. There were people eating Tide Pods in the 2010s. People were drinking bleach and taking Ivermectin to kill a virus about five years ago. AI, in some ways, might be our only saving grace at this point. It sure as Hell cannot cause people to do much worse.
    - api 17d ago
      AI makes it easier to fact check. It’s not perfect but it’s better than nothing.
      - echelon 17d ago
        This is the right perspective. While {AI, the Internet, Smartphones} can cause harm, {AI, the Internet, Smartphones} are vastly more beneficial to society than not.
- Tallain 17d ago
  Sounds like you fundamentally misunderstand the thing people have against using AI for these pursuits. If your imagination or capability needed LLMs in order to unlock their full potential (as in, if you waited until AI removed the barriers between a beginner and their future craft), maybe your potential wasn't that great to begin with. And all you're doing is producing things closer to the median, instead of somewhere toward one end of a bell curve.
  - joquarky 16d ago
    "Your potential" is part of a greater fairy tale told to gifted students to make them contribute significantly more to society at the cost of their mental health, especially when the promised rewards never materialize.
onion2k 18d ago
Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake it. Except you need to have taken a photo of the unmade bed, uploaded it to ChatGPT, prompted for the 'fake made bed' version, and downloaded the image. Surely it's less effort to just make the bed?
- jampekka 18d ago
  Not in the past I guess?
- emil-lp 18d ago
  > Surely it's less effort to just make the bed? It's not about the bed. People areaddicted to generating now. Slopoholics the whole bunch of them.
- Mashimo 17d ago
  You can take the photo, inside the chatgpt app and then talk to it without much effort. Perfect for a lazy teenager .
- 72deluxe 17d ago
  It would use far less energy to make the bed too, and help preserve Earth's future by avoiding needlessly expending energy.
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 18d ago
>The sad part is my mother would love "remixing" my old child photos of me. How is that sad? Why is your mothers joy sad?
- breezybottom 18d ago
  Memory already declines with age. AI slop threatens to warp those memories further.
- AyanamiKaine 18d ago
  Because she will pounder in old memories that never existed in the first place. Instead of cherrying the current times. Past moments of long gone time will be elongated beyond their actual existence. Imagine a time where a small moment is actually a smaller amount experienced then the remixed one. At one point you will have more memories of fake events, and more emotional beats for said fake events than real ones. AI videos showing you a second life if you just had chosen a different path. People will be depressed from it.
  - m_fayer 18d ago
    There’s a wonderful Ted Chiang short story called “Anxiety is The Dizziness Of Freedom” that explores how people become enmeshed and addicted to alternate versions of how their life could have gone. It’s reminiscent of what you’re describing.
  - ragequittah 17d ago
    I made an AI video of a picture of me when I was about 2. Had a huge smile on my face in the photo so as a lark I made a 5 second video of me laughing. The look in my mom's eyes when I showed her and the way she grabbed the phone from me to look closer was such a good moment. It's not an alternate reality. I was laughing at the time almost certainly. New ways of seeing old memories really needn't be depressing at all. It's so strange how so many people seem to only see the bad in a technology that can be used in countless different ways.
- handbanana_ 18d ago
bakhlawa 18d ago
Is that 5 pillows on the original (messy) bed down to 4 pillows in the clean version?
cobolcomesback 18d ago
Seriously, are these really the best examples they could come up with? What is the point of having a fake picture of your dog in a costume? What’s the point of having a fake picture about being at a party? The only use case I can think of for this is for someone who likes to make up stories and lie about what they’ve done. Is that really the target market?
- AyanamiKaine 18d ago
  That was exactly my first reaction! Mark where you at the party today? Yes of course look at these pictures I took (╥﹏╥)
- embedding-shape 18d ago
  > The only use case I can think of for this is for someone who likes to make up stories and lie about what they’ve done. Is that really the target market? As far as I can tell, the biggest uses of these sort of models is to pump out lots of content on multimedia-based social media, so yeah, it's basically for the sort of person who doesn't shy away from exaggerating, omitting or outright lying in order to get more views.
- xp84 18d ago
  Trying to be as least cynical as possible, imagine if you were a party with 3 or more people, and you really wanted a nice pic like that to commemorate the night, but never got to take one all together because someone left early, and you were in the bathroom when they announced their departure. Yes, it's a major first-world problem to not get a photo, but to the right person, it could mean a lot to them to "fix" the photo they took with A and B to add C to their 'rightful place.'
  - bryceacc 17d ago
    and then as you look back at that wonderful night you "remember" with all your friends, you will reinforce a false picture and reality strays further
  - chorkpop 17d ago
numlock86 18d ago
> Omg, I love how the first examples just show how easy you can fake things. Fake being at a party with your friends. Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake it. Well, that's like the entire point of social media anyway, isn't it? People there will _love_ this. Ugh ...
- eclipticplane 18d ago
  My secret hope is that this kills the influencer industry and gets things back to just ads. Just the ads happen to be fake people, instead of real people pretending to be ads.
jodacola 18d ago
I’m less concerned about faking being at a party with friends and more with the 2006 timestamp on said photo! Can you imagine finding a stack of photos in the basement with timestamps of the Before AI times and wondering whether they are real or just got swapped with generated and printed fakes? Scary! It’s cool, folks… nothing bad is going to happen. Right? Right?!
- AyanamiKaine 18d ago
  True, I didn't thought about that. Just imagine the scale of "historic" images that will be created over the next 100 years.
  - madaxe_again 17d ago
    There won’t be a next 100 years.
andai 18d ago
Yeah, the "3 lonely selfies -> fake 2006 party photo" is the most 2020s thing I've ever seen in my life.
torginus 17d ago
And the fan favourite 'Imagine the apartment we're trying to sell doesn't look like a superfund site'
hashstring 17d ago
Apple Intelligence received the same criticism when they launched Siri AI. Seems like the faking it, is a common product UC.
- alehlopeh 17d ago
  They famously have not launched Siri AI yet.
  - hashstring 17d ago
    Ah yeah, well they integrated Chat afaik. I meant to say when they launched their promo [1] for Siri AI. Can’t find a non IG link, sorry. [1] https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBBgEWQP2b5/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBBgEWQP2b5/

echelon 18d ago

This is an artificial modern world problem. For thousands of years people have told embellished stories, and humanity has thrived upon it. Tall tales, fish stories. Heck, that's still the average person's experience unless they've really worked their critical thinking muscles. Today's working adults are used to the short thirty-year "safe space" of smartphones and internet. We grew up in a temporary meta stability where "truth" was "recorded" and could be "relied upon", and now that the fundamentals are shifting, we're complaining that the physical world is amenable to storytelling and imagination once again. Cry me a river. This is awesome and is a direct consequence of everything I ever wanted the future to be: magical creative superpowers. I wanted to graduate into the world that is emerging now rather than spend the first third of my career in incrementalism and slow progress. 2008 - 2020 sucked. What a total lull. AI is healing these things and putting us back on track for the jet pack future we grew up dreaming about. It's taking us back to a creative world without shitty platforms controlling what we say and do, and without a ceiling on what we can accomplish. It feels like every day we're unwrapping a new present or several. Not small things, but reality-shattering things that fill me with inspiration to build and explore. It's so much fun.

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RobRivera 18d ago
[Cry me a River] No thank you
- sbarre 18d ago
  Good, because we need that river to make AI images!
AyanamiKaine 18d ago
To tell a story, to even exaggerate one is something completely different from providing "prove" it did really happen exactly the way it was told. There are many many people that will take an image as an undeniable fact of the real world. While before you could fake(photoshop) things it took more time then 30 seconds. I wouldnt regulate these aspects, because I believe pandoras box is already wide open. Regulating anything wouldn't change much.
- hirvi74 17d ago
  Pandora's box is already wide open? The lid was blown off the hinges long before AI. There were people eating Tide Pods in the 2010s. People were drinking bleach and taking Ivermectin to kill a virus about five years ago. AI, in some ways, might be our only saving grace at this point. It sure as Hell cannot cause people to do much worse.
  - api 17d ago
    AI makes it easier to fact check. It’s not perfect but it’s better than nothing.
    - echelon 17d ago
      This is the right perspective. While {AI, the Internet, Smartphones} can cause harm, {AI, the Internet, Smartphones} are vastly more beneficial to society than not.
Tallain 17d ago
Sounds like you fundamentally misunderstand the thing people have against using AI for these pursuits. If your imagination or capability needed LLMs in order to unlock their full potential (as in, if you waited until AI removed the barriers between a beginner and their future craft), maybe your potential wasn't that great to begin with. And all you're doing is producing things closer to the median, instead of somewhere toward one end of a bell curve.
- joquarky 16d ago
  "Your potential" is part of a greater fairy tale told to gifted students to make them contribute significantly more to society at the cost of their mental health, especially when the promised rewards never materialize.

onion2k 18d ago

Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake it. Except you need to have taken a photo of the unmade bed, uploaded it to ChatGPT, prompted for the 'fake made bed' version, and downloaded the image. Surely it's less effort to just make the bed?

jampekka 18d ago
Not in the past I guess?
emil-lp 18d ago
> Surely it's less effort to just make the bed? It's not about the bed. People areaddicted to generating now. Slopoholics the whole bunch of them.
Mashimo 17d ago
You can take the photo, inside the chatgpt app and then talk to it without much effort. Perfect for a lazy teenager .
72deluxe 17d ago
It would use far less energy to make the bed too, and help preserve Earth's future by avoiding needlessly expending energy.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 18d ago

>The sad part is my mother would love "remixing" my old child photos of me. How is that sad? Why is your mothers joy sad?

breezybottom 18d ago
Memory already declines with age. AI slop threatens to warp those memories further.
AyanamiKaine 18d ago
Because she will pounder in old memories that never existed in the first place. Instead of cherrying the current times. Past moments of long gone time will be elongated beyond their actual existence. Imagine a time where a small moment is actually a smaller amount experienced then the remixed one. At one point you will have more memories of fake events, and more emotional beats for said fake events than real ones. AI videos showing you a second life if you just had chosen a different path. People will be depressed from it.
- m_fayer 18d ago
  There’s a wonderful Ted Chiang short story called “Anxiety is The Dizziness Of Freedom” that explores how people become enmeshed and addicted to alternate versions of how their life could have gone. It’s reminiscent of what you’re describing.
- ragequittah 17d ago
  I made an AI video of a picture of me when I was about 2. Had a huge smile on my face in the photo so as a lark I made a 5 second video of me laughing. The look in my mom's eyes when I showed her and the way she grabbed the phone from me to look closer was such a good moment. It's not an alternate reality. I was laughing at the time almost certainly. New ways of seeing old memories really needn't be depressing at all. It's so strange how so many people seem to only see the bad in a technology that can be used in countless different ways.
handbanana_ 18d ago

bakhlawa 18d ago

Is that 5 pillows on the original (messy) bed down to 4 pillows in the clean version?

cobolcomesback 18d ago

Seriously, are these really the best examples they could come up with? What is the point of having a fake picture of your dog in a costume? What’s the point of having a fake picture about being at a party? The only use case I can think of for this is for someone who likes to make up stories and lie about what they’ve done. Is that really the target market?

AyanamiKaine 18d ago
That was exactly my first reaction! Mark where you at the party today? Yes of course look at these pictures I took (╥﹏╥)
embedding-shape 18d ago
> The only use case I can think of for this is for someone who likes to make up stories and lie about what they’ve done. Is that really the target market? As far as I can tell, the biggest uses of these sort of models is to pump out lots of content on multimedia-based social media, so yeah, it's basically for the sort of person who doesn't shy away from exaggerating, omitting or outright lying in order to get more views.
xp84 18d ago
Trying to be as least cynical as possible, imagine if you were a party with 3 or more people, and you really wanted a nice pic like that to commemorate the night, but never got to take one all together because someone left early, and you were in the bathroom when they announced their departure. Yes, it's a major first-world problem to not get a photo, but to the right person, it could mean a lot to them to "fix" the photo they took with A and B to add C to their 'rightful place.'
- bryceacc 17d ago
  and then as you look back at that wonderful night you "remember" with all your friends, you will reinforce a false picture and reality strays further
- chorkpop 17d ago

numlock86 18d ago

> Omg, I love how the first examples just show how easy you can fake things. Fake being at a party with your friends. Didn't make your bed, no problem, just fake it. Well, that's like the entire point of social media anyway, isn't it? People there will _love_ this. Ugh ...

eclipticplane 18d ago
My secret hope is that this kills the influencer industry and gets things back to just ads. Just the ads happen to be fake people, instead of real people pretending to be ads.

jodacola 18d ago

I’m less concerned about faking being at a party with friends and more with the 2006 timestamp on said photo! Can you imagine finding a stack of photos in the basement with timestamps of the Before AI times and wondering whether they are real or just got swapped with generated and printed fakes? Scary! It’s cool, folks… nothing bad is going to happen. Right? Right?!

AyanamiKaine 18d ago
True, I didn't thought about that. Just imagine the scale of "historic" images that will be created over the next 100 years.
- madaxe_again 17d ago
  There won’t be a next 100 years.

andai 18d ago

Yeah, the "3 lonely selfies -> fake 2006 party photo" is the most 2020s thing I've ever seen in my life.

torginus 17d ago

And the fan favourite 'Imagine the apartment we're trying to sell doesn't look like a superfund site'

hashstring 17d ago

Apple Intelligence received the same criticism when they launched Siri AI. Seems like the faking it, is a common product UC.

alehlopeh 17d ago
They famously have not launched Siri AI yet.
- hashstring 17d ago
  Ah yeah, well they integrated Chat afaik. I meant to say when they launched their promo [1] for Siri AI. Can’t find a non IG link, sorry. [1] https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBBgEWQP2b5/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBBgEWQP2b5/