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I do love the irony and schedenfruede, but this isnt about recording in public areas, its about recording the inside of prisons and ICE concentration camps. Tha

by samrus 18d ago

I do love the irony and schedenfruede, but this isnt about recording in public areas, its about recording the inside of prisons and ICE concentration camps. That is generally not something you can legally record and is analogous to a flock camera inside your office or house, which most people would agree is bad

dbingham 18d ago
...did you just use the phrase "ICE concentration camps" and then compare them to people's homes and offices to argue that recording them would be bad? Or did you mean "Bad from the perspective of the officers"? Which, uh, sure fine, but I don't really care what the officers working ICE concentration camps where dozens of people have died and the survivors live in deplorable conditions that absolutely violate the constitution's prohibition on "cruel and unusual punishment" think.
idiotsecant 18d ago
Yes I can imagine could be quite embarrassing for the abusers.
Ydarbleoj 18d ago
We should absolutely be able to see inside of our prisons. What are they hiding (My expectation is that we treat people humanely. You can tell a lot about a society by how they treat their prisoners)?
- chasd00 18d ago
  > What are they hiding the privacy of prisoners maybe. A prison cell is not a public place (nor the hallways either) so there is an actual expectation of privacy there.
  - alistairSH 18d ago
    Lack of access to the public doesn't necessarily mean there's an expectation of privacy. Criminals in jail typically have far less expectation of privacy in the US. That's been upheld by SCOTUS. Guards are (mostly) free to enter spaces and view prisoners at any time.
- samrus 18d ago
  I mean, they need to be able hide any weaknesses that will allow prison breaks. A prisoner or their collaborators can use this footage to gain intel about these things and break people out. People who might deserve being in prison, like murderers and rapists and stuff
Zenul_Abidin 17d ago
Who on earth is bringing smart glasses inside prison buildings?

by samrus 18d ago

dbingham 18d ago

...did you just use the phrase "ICE concentration camps" and then compare them to people's homes and offices to argue that recording them would be bad? Or did you mean "Bad from the perspective of the officers"? Which, uh, sure fine, but I don't really care what the officers working ICE concentration camps where dozens of people have died and the survivors live in deplorable conditions that absolutely violate the constitution's prohibition on "cruel and unusual punishment" think.

idiotsecant 18d ago

Yes I can imagine could be quite embarrassing for the abusers.

Ydarbleoj 18d ago

We should absolutely be able to see inside of our prisons. What are they hiding (My expectation is that we treat people humanely. You can tell a lot about a society by how they treat their prisoners)?

chasd00 18d ago
> What are they hiding the privacy of prisoners maybe. A prison cell is not a public place (nor the hallways either) so there is an actual expectation of privacy there.
- alistairSH 18d ago
  Lack of access to the public doesn't necessarily mean there's an expectation of privacy. Criminals in jail typically have far less expectation of privacy in the US. That's been upheld by SCOTUS. Guards are (mostly) free to enter spaces and view prisoners at any time.
samrus 18d ago
I mean, they need to be able hide any weaknesses that will allow prison breaks. A prisoner or their collaborators can use this footage to gain intel about these things and break people out. People who might deserve being in prison, like murderers and rapists and stuff

Zenul_Abidin 17d ago

Who on earth is bringing smart glasses inside prison buildings?