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The problem is that they're in a weird position between US models and Chinese models. Not as performant as US models, not as cheap as Chinese models. Especiall
by eloisant 2mo ago
The problem is that they're in a weird position between US models and Chinese models. Not as performant as US models, not as cheap as Chinese models.
Especially as Chinese models are getting better Mistral is getting less and less relevant.
It pains me because I want them to succeed, but despite them denying it I believe they'll end up restrict their activity to (1) selling hosting for Chinese models (they're already hosting GLM) and (2) selling AI-related consultant service (they're also doing that already).
- pembrook 2mo agoIf there’s one thing the legacy, dying industrial companies of Europe love, it’s consulting. So they’ll probably make more money creating PowerPoints with ChatGPT than they will trying to compete with the US and China. Which would be the most European outcome ever.
- Foobar8568 2mo agoNot just legacy dying industry. Whole IT in France and Switzerland runs on consultancy.
- w3ll_w3ll_w3ll 2mo agoAdd Italy please.
- kiney 2mo agoand Germany
- chrystianpl 2mo agoand Poland
- rich_sasha 2mo agoI think Europe was at risk of being left without even a foot in the door. Mistral os one of few such feet. Just having some compute and know how for running Chinese models is better than nothing. Low bar I know but still. Who knows what R&D they’re doing while keeping the business running. I’m not sure really what the winning strategy is in this weird arms race.
- chriscyber 2mo agoAgree
- u8080 2mo agoNo, they are just worse and more expensive then frontier chinese models
- illiac786 2mo agoI don’t think their pitch is being the cheapest or frontier. Sovereign, data privacy, these are their strengths. Or even being not US and not Chinese; this is in itself an advantage nowadays. (Which is crazy)