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The problem is that they're in a weird position between US models and Chinese models. Not as performant as US models, not as cheap as Chinese models. Especiall
by eloisant 18d ago
The problem is that they're in a weird position between US models and Chinese models. Not as performant as US models, not as cheap as Chinese models.
Especially as Chinese models are getting better Mistral is getting less and less relevant.
It pains me because I want them to succeed, but despite them denying it I believe they'll end up restrict their activity to (1) selling hosting for Chinese models (they're already hosting GLM) and (2) selling AI-related consultant service (they're also doing that already).
- pembrook 18d agoIf there’s one thing the legacy, dying industrial companies of Europe love, it’s consulting. So they’ll probably make more money creating PowerPoints with ChatGPT than they will trying to compete with the US and China. Which would be the most European outcome ever.
- Foobar8568 18d agoNot just legacy dying industry. Whole IT in France and Switzerland runs on consultancy.
- w3ll_w3ll_w3ll 18d agoAdd Italy please.
- kiney 18d agoand Germany
- chrystianpl 18d agoand Poland
- rich_sasha 18d agoI think Europe was at risk of being left without even a foot in the door. Mistral os one of few such feet. Just having some compute and know how for running Chinese models is better than nothing. Low bar I know but still. Who knows what R&D they’re doing while keeping the business running. I’m not sure really what the winning strategy is in this weird arms race.
- chriscyber 14d agoAgree
- u8080 18d agoNo, they are just worse and more expensive then frontier chinese models
- illiac786 17d agoI don’t think their pitch is being the cheapest or frontier. Sovereign, data privacy, these are their strengths. Or even being not US and not Chinese; this is in itself an advantage nowadays. (Which is crazy)