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> to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with to DDOS one website, which is doxxing the owner. Not that it makes it good idea, but it's a little more understand

by progval 28d ago

> to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with to DDOS one website, which is doxxing the owner. Not that it makes it good idea, but it's a little more understandable.

bulder 28d ago
DDoSing a website, modifying their archives surreptitiously to serve their own wants (which was what tipped Wikipedia towards banning their use), running weird sockpuppet campaigns to build dependence on them, and fucking with Cloudflare's DNS resolution to prevent anti-tracking measures from working. Oh and even if I wanted to ignore all of this, I couldn't use them anyways because they blackholed the majority of Finnish IP ranges after the DDoS incident to I guess punish the entire country for the targeted blogger being born here.
- dakolli 28d ago
  archive.today has been targeted by Western institutions, like the FBI, for over a year now. Which signals to me they are the good guys.
  - SXX 28d ago
    Come on. It's not WikiLeaks. If they were targeted by FBI it would be down.
    - dakolli 28d ago
      What do you mean, I didnt make it up... Its detailed on the archive.today wikipedia page. The media barrons in the west have bribed the US government to pursue archive criminally on their behalf for helping people bypass paywalls. https://www.theverge.com/news/815691/fbi-subpoena-archive-is-owner https://www.theverge.com/news/815691/fbi-subpoena-archive-is...
      - bulder 28d ago
        That's great, how does that absolve the archive.today maintainer's bad faith activities, including creating a country-wall?
        DaSHacka 28d ago
        Because if he's being targeted by the feds, he obviously he doesn't want his private information being published by some guy who self-admittedly did it on a whim? Is this really that hard to understand?
        dakolli 28d ago
        Umm, every USA company blocks North Korea, Iran and often Cuba. One guy blocking a single country is not at all problematic.
  - wongarsu 28d ago
    All that tells us is that the site is probably not run by the FBI. It could still be run by the CIA, Russian intelligence, or some lone morally neutral guy from Prague
    - bawolff 28d ago
      If it was run by the CIA or russian intelligence, they wouldn't have burned their asset with petty grudges.
      - nosrepa 28d ago
        Have you seen this current administration?
        DaSHacka 28d ago
        You realize the CIA is nonpartisan, right?
        someguyiguess 27d ago
        I genuinely cannot tell if this was meant to be humorous.
radicalcentrist 28d ago
I'm not well-informed about this situation, but DDOSing does strike me as an action which is fundamentally counter to information freedom and archival, so that seems like a reasonable suspicion to me.
RobotToaster 28d ago
I would add it was also completely ineffective since the site in question was hosted on wordpress.com, which is about as likely to work as ddosing Google.

by progval 28d ago

> to DDOS sites the owner doesn't agree with to DDOS one website, which is doxxing the owner. Not that it makes it good idea, but it's a little more understandable.

bulder 28d ago

DDoSing a website, modifying their archives surreptitiously to serve their own wants (which was what tipped Wikipedia towards banning their use), running weird sockpuppet campaigns to build dependence on them, and fucking with Cloudflare's DNS resolution to prevent anti-tracking measures from working. Oh and even if I wanted to ignore all of this, I couldn't use them anyways because they blackholed the majority of Finnish IP ranges after the DDoS incident to I guess punish the entire country for the targeted blogger being born here.

dakolli 28d ago
archive.today has been targeted by Western institutions, like the FBI, for over a year now. Which signals to me they are the good guys.
- SXX 28d ago
  Come on. It's not WikiLeaks. If they were targeted by FBI it would be down.
  - dakolli 28d ago
    What do you mean, I didnt make it up... Its detailed on the archive.today wikipedia page. The media barrons in the west have bribed the US government to pursue archive criminally on their behalf for helping people bypass paywalls. https://www.theverge.com/news/815691/fbi-subpoena-archive-is-owner https://www.theverge.com/news/815691/fbi-subpoena-archive-is...
    - bulder 28d ago
      That's great, how does that absolve the archive.today maintainer's bad faith activities, including creating a country-wall?
      - DaSHacka 28d ago
        Because if he's being targeted by the feds, he obviously he doesn't want his private information being published by some guy who self-admittedly did it on a whim? Is this really that hard to understand?
      - dakolli 28d ago
        Umm, every USA company blocks North Korea, Iran and often Cuba. One guy blocking a single country is not at all problematic.
- wongarsu 28d ago
  All that tells us is that the site is probably not run by the FBI. It could still be run by the CIA, Russian intelligence, or some lone morally neutral guy from Prague
  - bawolff 28d ago
    If it was run by the CIA or russian intelligence, they wouldn't have burned their asset with petty grudges.
    - nosrepa 28d ago
      Have you seen this current administration?
      - DaSHacka 28d ago
        You realize the CIA is nonpartisan, right?
        someguyiguess 27d ago
        I genuinely cannot tell if this was meant to be humorous.

radicalcentrist 28d ago

I'm not well-informed about this situation, but DDOSing does strike me as an action which is fundamentally counter to information freedom and archival, so that seems like a reasonable suspicion to me.

RobotToaster 28d ago

I would add it was also completely ineffective since the site in question was hosted on wordpress.com, which is about as likely to work as ddosing Google.