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I am vegan except for fish, and find it works really well. Sardines are awesome!
by John7878781 28d ago
I am vegan except for fish, and find it works really well. Sardines are awesome!
- adityamwagh 28d agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
- BowBun 28d agoA good term for that is pescatarian - as eating fish is neither vegan nor veg!
- deadbabe 28d agoSo not vegan at all.
- Incipient 28d agoI'd say their description is fair. We don't have a word for vegan+fish. Pescetarianism includes eggs, milk, etc. So they're precisely vegan, with fish.
- colordrops 28d agoExcept veganism is not a diet, but an ethical framework. The diet is a consequence, not the definition.
- Moomoomoo309 27d agoWhat is the term for the vegan diet sans the ethical framework? If there isn't one, that kinda sucks.
- colordrops 27d agoIt does indeed exist, it's called the Plant Based Diet.
- Moomoomoo309 27d agoThat makes sense, thank you!
- deadbabe 28d agoThat is absolutely wrong. There is no gray area when it comes to veganism. Just because there is no word for that diet, does not mean you can just twist the definition of vegan for your convenience. You could easily just say your a pescatarian who doesn’t eat dairy or eggs, and that would be more correct.
- John7878781 28d agoSorry for not being perfect like you. For ethical reasons, I do not consume dairy or meat (except for fish). The vegan community should be more open to other perspectives, especially when someone is actively making an effort towards reducing harm. Vegan Puritanism is totally antithetical to our collective goal of reducing animal suffering. Rather than being motivated by the prospect of claiming moral superiority, our goal should be to help the animals.
- deadbabe 28d agoKilling and eating animals is not a perspective vegans will be open to. You can reduce harm, but you cannot call yourself vegan until you actually eliminate the possibility of eating animals or their products from your life. There is no reason you HAVE to eat fish.
- BowBun 27d agoIt's not really a moral issue, it's simply the definition of the word. Using an incorrect term to describe yourself knowing it is incorrect can be perceived as virtue-signaling or claiming your own moral superiority. For example, one could ask "why call yourself a vegan if you eat fish?". There's no policing body here, but people are rightfully calling the double-standard out here. Edit: Would also love to hear the ethics of why fish can be eaten when cows/chicken/pigs cannot. Doesn't sound ethically consistent to me at all.
- John7878781 27d agoI actually prefer not to call myself a vegan IRL both because of the issue you’re describing and because veganism is (rightfully) associated with having a toxic and intolerant culture. The only reason I said “vegan except fish” in my comment is because the title of the study used the word “vegan” and because the study was talking about veganism in a purely dietary/scientific lens, not an ethical one. I think this was a pretty reasonable thing to do.
- shmoil 28d agoAnd occasional steak? I love steak. I am a pesca-pescaterian, btw.
- bestouff 28d agoI'm also vegan except for fish. And meat.