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The issue with the "i'm just asking questions" is that it is overused by disingenuous (i started writing nefarious but i think you can be nefarious but mean goo
by orwin 28d ago
The issue with the "i'm just asking questions" is that it is overused by disingenuous (i started writing nefarious but i think you can be nefarious but mean good, whereas people who do this _always_ mean to trick other humans) people. So nowadays, if you want to go ask a question to go further on a topic because you're interested in it, you need to add a preamble that explain. See:
"How did ancient egyptian managed to cut rock that cleanly without modern tools?"
vs
"I'm very interested in old tools and techniques, do any of you have resources about how Egyptian used to cut granite?"
Sadly, this is the state of the internet, because some people can't be genuine (probably think it's a weakness or something dumb), now everybody assume the worst of everybody else.
- whimsicalism 28d agoI hear what you're saying, but I don't think it really applies to a question asking for the veracity of a previously stated claim, especially when the claim is actually false. I think there is more than enough bad things the government actually does wrt immigration enforcement, we don't need to start making things up.
- orwin 28d agoIn that case, it vastly more productive to say : 'I do believe this is false/poorly presented/a gross generalisation, and would like you to prove me wrong by citing sources'. At least you do not hide behind the "I'm just asking questions", which read as disingenuous like I said, mostly because it's overused rethoric.
- whimsicalism 28d agoi think this is an isolated demand for rigor, my way of approaching it was fine, and it is only due to the political valence of the comment i'm replying to that i got downvoted and flagged. take care
- naishoya 28d agoa cursory view of whataboutism's... i mean whimsicalism's comment stream has the effect of negating any declarations of serious intent. This is standard practice, take issue with a valid if overstated perspective on a technicality, insist that the current state of the market and technology is acting as it should, and that continued disregard for the abuses/negative outcomes/deteriorating conditions will be solved by further application of the current techniques. The downvotes are perhaps the intended outcome. I might say that I didn't know this when i first responded, but that would be untrue. I engaged in exactly that manner, fully informed of the observable tendencies for engagement. There's no need to try and advise an account as if this 'just asking questions' was a misstep. There is ample substance showing that this account repeatedly declines to take the HN recommended approaches to polite interaction.