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> There are very logical reasons why the state wielding force and violence is preferable to the alternatives… Seems like there are some pretty clear historical

> There are very logical reasons why the state wielding force and violence is preferable to the alternatives… Seems like there are some pretty clear historical exceptions to this rule.

Grombobulous 1mo ago
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- ceejayoz 1mo ago
  > we’ve already established an okay-ish democratic system We have pardoned Jan 6ers convicted of "wielding force and violence" for political goals in goverment positions now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch is uncomfortably close to the situation.
  - SpicyLemonZest 1mo ago
    And everyone involved in hiring and pardoning them should go to prison. I can't speak for everyone, but many of us really do have a principled opposition to political violence.
    - mitxela 1mo ago
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