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"Certifiably insane" to enable JavaScript, which was invented in 1995, or install an app, which first happened on the Palm series of smartphones in 1996. Either
by fragmede 2mo ago
"Certifiably insane" to enable JavaScript, which was invented in 1995, or install an app, which first happened on the Palm series of smartphones in 1996. Either of those are "certifiably insane"?
For reference, the term neurodiversity was coined circa 1998.
- mdp2021 2mo agoJS or installing special software to view HTTP served text from the web?! Yes, that makes no sense at all.
- serf 2mo agoNeither the invention date or the mental health terminology have anything to do with the fact that js being commonplace is a privacy and security nightmare -- which was actually the point.
- micromacrofoot 2mo agoJavaScript asceticism is a weird trend that has just never died out, no one treats any other language this way... and "privacy and security nightmare" can be used to describe most of the internet at this point with or without it
- tomrod 2mo agoIt can certainly come across as a "weird trend" but I've found that the most insistent for disabling JS are the folks who have deep knowledge of browsers and the security plane running webapps. YMMV.
- micromacrofoot 2mo agoI don't drive a car because I have deep knowledge of mortality statistics, but I don't complain when I can't easily get somewhere 100 miles away
- Dylan16807 2mo agoShowing a paragraph of text with some social links around it is like going down the block. If that requires a car you do have a problem.
- micromacrofoot 2mo agoyeah but it's an extreme fringe choice... I too make extreme fringe choices but I don't expect 99.9% of the people who don't make my extreme fringe choice to change on my behalf hell, use a browser in a sandbox if you're that paranoid there are a number of ways to do this securely, at this point it's practically a child's tantrum but sure maybe it just needs a couple more decades of complaining in obscure comment sections and everyone will finally get it and switch back to mailing lists
- rezonant 2mo agoooh, don't forget irc
- swiftcoder 2mo ago> JavaScript asceticism is a weird trend that has just never died out, no one treats any other language this way I'm not aware of any other language that is layered on top of a perfectly serviceable user-facing content delivery syntax?
- alt227 2mo agoLiterally any scripting language? I have managed to get 35 years into a sysadmin career without knowing or writing a single line of python. I see a python script, I run a million miles away and wont touch it with a barge pole.
- kevin_thibedeau 2mo agoJS is a vector for browser exploits and privacy invasion. No other language is commonly used for these things.
- alt227 2mo agoNot even things like batch files and visual basic scripts on windows? Everyone seems to forget we had decades of dodgy scripts and activex controls in our browsers for years before javascript became the thing it is today.
- kevin_thibedeau 2mo agoThey were never widely disseminated over a network. Office VBA exploits only lasted as a widespread threat until MS locked down macros by default. JS has been around much longer than that.
- Dusseldorf 2mo agoI can't recall ever needing to run a batch script to read a paragraph on a website, so doesn't seem like a very apt comparison. Are you claiming there's some group of people who have JavaScript disabled but would be happily running Activex if it were still around? Seems reasonable for some people to dislike and disable JavaScript in 2026, even though another, separate group of people had ActiveX enabled in 2009.
- micromacrofoot 2mo agopngs in emails are used for this http headers and CSS is used for this flash drives left on the ground outside are used for this
- account42 2mo agoThat's because no other language is pushed in a place where people are requesting documents.
- account42 2mo agoYou don't start being sane just because you stubbornly keep the insanity up for long enough.