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Gateside by TSA Precheck
- zulux 20d agoGetting back to some of what we had before [redacted] came to America.
- Mobius01 20d agoInstead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.
- geetee 20d agoIt's free?
- fallinghawks 20d agoAs long as you have TSA precheck or a known traveler number, which costs money.
- hkchad 20d agoLots of people get TKN's with their work, for free.
- flyingshelf 20d agoSomeone is paying for it, which is what we're arguing about.
- chronc7403 20d ago> Someone is paying for it, which is what we're arguing about. Yeah, passengers without TSA Precheck are paying for it. Your flight ticket already includes the TSA and airport fees.
- edoceo 20d agoTSA Pre-Check itself has an admin fee of $150 IIRC
- fallinghawks 20d agoAnd you have to renew every 5 years, which runs around $60-80.
- bigstrat2003 20d agoHow, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass program. If the security measures are truly necessary, then you shouldn't exempt anyone from them. And if they aren't necessary, then they should be abolished. Precheck always struck me as a tacit admission that the TSA is security theater while trying to make some extra money for the government. But again, that isn't some kind of sin unique to the Trump admin the way you implied.
- Mobius01 20d agoI didn’t blame the administration for starting Pre-Check: I’m faulting them for not ending it, instead adding another feature to it. The new gate access is free - for TSA Pre-Check enrollees. Meaning this will increase demand for the service. They could have done the population a (rare) solid and found a way to phase out the security theater.
- bigstrat2003 20d agoYou said: > they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration. But this administration didn't cause the monetization. I am fine with criticizing them for not ending the TSA - I too think they should end it. But your post implied some kind of corruption angle, one that is specifically due to this administration. And I don't think that criticism holds true. One must criticize them for only the things they've actually done, imo.
- lokar 20d agoAll of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
- anonymousiam 20d agoThis new service is provided free to people who already have TSA Precheck. What I would like to know is if it's also available to those who have Global Entry. I let my TSA Precheck lapse after getting Global Entry because I saw no benefit to keeping it.
- collinmcnulty 20d agoIt says “to those with Known Traveler Numbers”
- sjs382 20d agoIt is. With Global Entry, you have a KTN. > Who is Eligible > TSA PreCheck members and those with Known Traveler Numbers (KTNs).
- cryptonector 20d agoIt was monetized quite a while back.
- adjejmxbdjdn 20d agoWe don’t live in a pre-9/11 world. There’s no going back to that. If well implemented This seems a reasonable compromise.
- pstuart 20d agoI just had to pay to renew my TSA PreCheck. Because why? They already know my threat risk (zero), and in paying them again nothing changed except they took more money from me.
- Urgo 20d agoJust like being "verified" is a monthly subscription on twitter/meta too. They are not verifying you each month. In before we have to start renewing our birth certificates each year too.
- xyzelement 20d agoAllegedly there's an actual re-evaluation during the renewal. For example if you start showing up on terrorist watchlists your next renewal might not go through. I think this is kinda true because my wife was involved in a customs incident and then was unable to renew pre check for a bunch of years, thought that was never given as a reason.
- flyingshelf 20d agoMind sharing what the incident was? Carrying too many valuables?
- the_sleaze_ 20d agosmuggling cheese and dried sausage?
- xyzelement 20d agoShe innocently brought something from a country where it was legal to a country where it wasn't. It wasn't an obvious illegal thing and she voluntarily told customs that she was bringing it.
- FireBeyond 20d agoLeaving aside that the vast majority of people on such lists are nothing of the sort, your presence on them is evaluated if not every time you book a flight, but every time you check in for one. Otherwise that's a pretty gaping loophole. "Get Precheck and then go to terrorist training camp, you're safe for a few years". (All of this is notwithstanding the fact that all of this is absolute garbage security theater, and I say that as someone with Pre and Clear.
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- MuffinFlavored 20d agoDownside: Finding a seat at an already crowded gate just got harder. Upside: loved ones get to hang out with loved ones for longer.
- firesteelrain 20d agoThis is great. But airports are super busy and crowded these days. Imagine all the extra people if everyone took advantage of this I don’t remember how it looked back in the day when you didn’t need Gateside.
- unsnap_biceps 20d agoIt's obnoxious enough to go through security and meet someone at their gate that for major airports, it was only done for picking up kids or old folks. It's not going to move the needle on how crowded it feels. for smaller airports, it won't matter, my local airport has four gates, the terminal is maybe 300 feet end to end, so everyone currently waits outside of security, but it's like 10-20 folks. the few that make it to the gate won't matter at all.
- firesteelrain 20d agoYea I was thinking the major airports like Atlanta, Orlando, Denver, etc that are usually slammed
- wilburx3 20d agoYou have to book it ahead of time?! What goober designed a system like this?
- samename 20d agoI imagine lack of a same day booking option makes this a nonstarter for most
- satvikpendem 20d agoThis is funny to see because this is exactly how it was before 9/11.
- kelnos 20d agoIt's still worse; back then you didn't need to register at least a day in advance, and you didn't need a KTN.
- passive 20d agoSeems cool, and makes sense, but does seem like it's mostly going to be annoying. It's available at a limited number of airports, and you have to apply 1-3 days in advance each time. Also could be annoying to travellers who have to compete with you for line, seat, or bathroom space. But maybe more revenue from visitors means better staffing and resources for airports!
- chrishas35 20d agoTUL (and probably plenty others) has free visitor passes, no precheck required
- acwan93 20d agoI read somewhere that Pittsburgh airport was trying to do something like this cause the stores gateside were not available anywhere else. In any case, like with airport lounges, it seems like “everyone” has some form of credit card that gives them Precheck/Global Entry for free, further dividing the commercial air experience.
- treetalker 20d agoWe will be happy to scan your face, x-ray your belongings, and add your latest known location to our database — no extra charge!