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Time with my young adult children. They are all out of the house, recently, and there is nothing, and I mean NOTHING more valuable/meaningful to us than when t

Time with my young adult children. They are all out of the house, recently, and there is nothing, and I mean NOTHING more valuable/meaningful to us than when they come home for a visit or we spend time out in the world. It's incredible.

thousand_nights 29d ago
this is nice to know as someone who is the adult child. i used to argue a lot with my parents when i was still living with them, but ever since i moved out and we only see each other once every few months, our relationship has improved so much, and we're always happy to see each other in smaller doses
- nly 29d ago
  So true..had my parents over for Christmas one year and they stayed for 4 days. 3 would have been perfect.
  - gytdev 27d ago
    its a saying in Lithuanian: "Guests are like fish - starts rotting after 3 days". It might be a bit dark to some readers :)
- bheadmaster 29d ago
  It's because we're no longer a burden. Many parents would gasp at this sentence, but the same parents would likely complain to anyone who'd listen about how negatively their children are affecting their lives.
  - fwip 29d ago
    It's also the other way around - when the parent is no longer in charge of you, you can coexist as peers more easily.
ivolimmen 29d ago
I lived a short time in my 20s with friends a few blocks from my parents. When I returned to live with my parents for a short period the entire dynamic changed. You leave the house so you don't go to your room, you visit. I started talking more and listening to music with them. I really appreciated my parents more. I hope my relationship with my children will be the same.
- jimmydddd 29d ago
  What do you mean by listening to music with them? Like, sitting around in the living room playing each other's favorite songs? I don't think I've ever done that with my parents, my kids, or anyone really.
  - Exoristos 29d ago
    Many such mutual activities are being lost. But I can't believe permanently.
  - vorpalhex 29d ago
    Listening to music with my young kids is a favorite. My wife and I also frequently invite other couples over to listen to vinyl and enjoy a cocktail or two. We like vinyl just because it has the physicality to it but I think anything here is fine. It's the music and the shared experience.
  - hackable_sand 29d ago
    Sitting and listening to an album with someone is a very nice experience. You learn from each other in unexpected ways.
  - Gerard0 29d ago
    I guess most people don't sit and listen to something nowadays. I rarely do it. But to just play your favorite songs to your family? You surely have woken up to a song you remembered or have been listening and played it out loud? If you haven't, do it! Your family will love to see you sing, dance, react to it!
  - 29d ago
nutjob2 29d ago
I never enjoyed spending time with my late parents. I only did so out of a sense of obligation. I have no children and have never really given that choice a second thought. Its interesting that people value their relationship with their children so much and I assume its due to a deep sense of connection with them, they being "flesh and blood" but I've never given that any weight. I feel much more connected to people who have had similar life experiences and ideas to myself, and that could be anyone. I have quite a few relatives who I've never met or met once and do not see because they are nothing like me. I suspect this is mostly due to being pretty far out on the pointy bits of various bell curves.
- magicalhippo 29d ago
  It also depends on the parents and how they nurtured the relationship with the child as they grew up. I had a a good relationship with mine growing up, and enjoyed visiting, talking and so on as I was an adult. A good friend had it different. They were not good parents. He, much like you, visit out of obligation and not to get written out of the will quite frankly. If it was up to him he'd never see them again.
- seizethecheese 29d ago
  It’s actually incomprehensible as a non parent. Your entire psychology re-orients after kids.
  - gameman144 29d ago
    I actually have long disagreed with this sentiment -- I know people who don't want and never want kids, and they seem to totally comprehend the kind of love I have for my children. I also remember being a teenager and always kind of understanding the depth of the love my parents had for me (as in knowing "they love me implicitly, and they'd die for me, and they wish me so much happiness", and all the other trappings that I'd use to describe it with my own kids). Being able to feel that love directly is, of course, a different story that's probably indeed pretty unique.
    - 29d ago
chr15m 28d ago
Thank you for this reminder. This is probably only a short few years away for me.

thousand_nights 29d ago

this is nice to know as someone who is the adult child. i used to argue a lot with my parents when i was still living with them, but ever since i moved out and we only see each other once every few months, our relationship has improved so much, and we're always happy to see each other in smaller doses

nly 29d ago
So true..had my parents over for Christmas one year and they stayed for 4 days. 3 would have been perfect.
- gytdev 27d ago
  its a saying in Lithuanian: "Guests are like fish - starts rotting after 3 days". It might be a bit dark to some readers :)
bheadmaster 29d ago
It's because we're no longer a burden. Many parents would gasp at this sentence, but the same parents would likely complain to anyone who'd listen about how negatively their children are affecting their lives.
- fwip 29d ago
  It's also the other way around - when the parent is no longer in charge of you, you can coexist as peers more easily.

ivolimmen 29d ago

I lived a short time in my 20s with friends a few blocks from my parents. When I returned to live with my parents for a short period the entire dynamic changed. You leave the house so you don't go to your room, you visit. I started talking more and listening to music with them. I really appreciated my parents more. I hope my relationship with my children will be the same.

jimmydddd 29d ago
What do you mean by listening to music with them? Like, sitting around in the living room playing each other's favorite songs? I don't think I've ever done that with my parents, my kids, or anyone really.
- Exoristos 29d ago
  Many such mutual activities are being lost. But I can't believe permanently.
- vorpalhex 29d ago
  Listening to music with my young kids is a favorite. My wife and I also frequently invite other couples over to listen to vinyl and enjoy a cocktail or two. We like vinyl just because it has the physicality to it but I think anything here is fine. It's the music and the shared experience.
- hackable_sand 29d ago
  Sitting and listening to an album with someone is a very nice experience. You learn from each other in unexpected ways.
- Gerard0 29d ago
  I guess most people don't sit and listen to something nowadays. I rarely do it. But to just play your favorite songs to your family? You surely have woken up to a song you remembered or have been listening and played it out loud? If you haven't, do it! Your family will love to see you sing, dance, react to it!
- 29d ago

nutjob2 29d ago

I never enjoyed spending time with my late parents. I only did so out of a sense of obligation. I have no children and have never really given that choice a second thought. Its interesting that people value their relationship with their children so much and I assume its due to a deep sense of connection with them, they being "flesh and blood" but I've never given that any weight. I feel much more connected to people who have had similar life experiences and ideas to myself, and that could be anyone. I have quite a few relatives who I've never met or met once and do not see because they are nothing like me. I suspect this is mostly due to being pretty far out on the pointy bits of various bell curves.

magicalhippo 29d ago
It also depends on the parents and how they nurtured the relationship with the child as they grew up. I had a a good relationship with mine growing up, and enjoyed visiting, talking and so on as I was an adult. A good friend had it different. They were not good parents. He, much like you, visit out of obligation and not to get written out of the will quite frankly. If it was up to him he'd never see them again.
seizethecheese 29d ago
It’s actually incomprehensible as a non parent. Your entire psychology re-orients after kids.
- gameman144 29d ago
  I actually have long disagreed with this sentiment -- I know people who don't want and never want kids, and they seem to totally comprehend the kind of love I have for my children. I also remember being a teenager and always kind of understanding the depth of the love my parents had for me (as in knowing "they love me implicitly, and they'd die for me, and they wish me so much happiness", and all the other trappings that I'd use to describe it with my own kids). Being able to feel that love directly is, of course, a different story that's probably indeed pretty unique.
  - 29d ago

chr15m 28d ago

Thank you for this reminder. This is probably only a short few years away for me.