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> Rather, people doubt that they would belong to the over-policed parties I don't think the people recording regular police interactions and refusing police in
by bko 21d ago
> Rather, people doubt that they would belong to the over-policed parties
I don't think the people recording regular police interactions and refusing police instructions when stopped ever had any doubt about being over-policed.
> NSF funding from my relatives: "yes, funding has been illegally cut,..."
How is a cut illegal? Does any additional dollar in funding have to persist for all of eternity. For reference:
| FY | NSF appropriation |
| 1952 | $4M |
| 1960 | $153M |
| 1970 | $440M |
| 1980 | $992M |
| 1990 | $2.08B |
| 2000 | $3.91B |
| 2010 | $6.87B |
| 2020 | $8.21B |
| 2024 | $9.06B |
| 2025 | $9.06B |
| 2026 | $8.75B |
- Forgeties79 21d agoThe cuts can be illegal if one doesn’t have the authority to cut it and/or violates the procedures required.
- bko 21d ago[flagged]
- Forgeties79 21d ago> You're trying to back into a position that you read in some article and trying to come off as just an impartial judge who cares about procedure and rule of law. Excuse me? I was answering the question, I didn’t say anything beyond that. Ease off the gas. Also, based on your other comment chain it looks like Congress did not approve it. But I don’t know enough about the specific cut to say either way. You came in here with a clear ax to grind and decided I was going to be your target. Don’t project your anger at some caricature on to me. Take a beat.
- odo1242 21d agoGovernment funding must be approved by Congress. If Congress already approved funding the NSF, then it has to be Congress that removes the funding.
- bko 21d ago[flagged]
- GymInMeCricket 21d agoAppologies, but I don't see how this supports your point. It actually seems to support the claim that the reduction in NSF awards is illegal because it states that the request was explicitly rejected by Congress
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- oh_my_goodness 21d agoYour link confirms that the cuts are illegal.
- bko 21d agoWrong again. Read it, feed it to your LLM, but you're wrong.
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- GymInMeCricket 21d agoYour pasted quote explicitly says that Congress did not allow the cuts. I do not know what point you are trying to make. For good measure, I pasted it into Gemini as you requested, and this is what it said: > Me: Does this say that the president is allowed to prevent distribution of funds from NSF without congressional approval: https://www.aip.org/fyi/trump-proposes-deep-research-cuts-new-icebreaker-for-nsf https://www.aip.org/fyi/trump-proposes-deep-research-cuts-ne... > > Gemini: No, it does not. [etc.]
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- GymInMeCricket 21d agoMy understanding is that congress chooses how much money should be distributed to each organization (e.g. NSF) each year, and preventing that money from being distributed is not legal. If I understand correctly, your table is of appropriation from Congress, not distribution[1]. I am open to being corrected if I am wrong. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02574-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02574-6
- mullingitover 21d ago> How is a cut illegal? If the Office of Management and Budget follows a president's order to cut NSF funds and they violate the Anti-Deficiency Act, it's literally a crime. If the president orders the violation in order to achieve some political outcome, that's also bribery and extortion. In this mafia regime it's a case of 'throw it on the pile,' but it doesn't change the fact that this stuff is wildly illegal. The president's job is to be the dumb unthinking agent of Congress and to execute the laws they pass on behalf of the people. Budgets are laws.
- Supermancho 21d ago> The president's job is to be the dumb unthinking agent of Congress Execution will never be as simple as the textual content of a bill, so I'm not sure 'mindless' is a useful term. While the POTUS is expected to be a bureaucrat, functionally and conceptually that is only one aspect of their responsibilities. Military oversight and diplomatic coordination as head of state, comes to mind.
- mullingitover 21d agoI'm oversimplifying, but when it comes to the budget I'm pretty accurate: the president can't just decide they won't spend the money because they don't like where it's going or who it's going to. They certainly can't extort the lawful recipients of the money.
- blooalien 20d agoI'm not 100% sure about your usage of the word "can't" since it's been actively happening. Maybe "shouldn't" might apply better to the reality of the world we now find ourselves living in.
- mullingitover 20d agoIt’s evident from the context, but to spell it out: can’t legally.
- ipython 21d agoIf you feel there should be cuts to nsf, then congress should do so (as enshrined by law). Not executive fiat by the president. Per the constitution the congress has the power of the purse.
- blooalien 20d ago> If you feel there should be cuts to nsf, then congress should do so (as enshrined by law). Not executive fiat by the president. Per the constitution the congress has the power of the purse. Yes, exactly, and if someone don't like what the Constitution says, then you either do the proper patriotic thing and gather enough folks who agree with you to change or amend it, or you (as the MAGA loons are so fond of telling folks) move to a different country with rules you can agree with. Sadly, that's not the world we now live in. We've let psychotic narcissists overun our government to a dangerous degree, making it near impossible to change those things that need changed, because they have all the money, power, and weapons, and they're not afraid to use them against "We The People". At this rate, I half-expect I'll see Trump out on 5th Avenue one day soon, testing his theory about him shooting someone without consequence.
- oh_my_goodness 21d agoCuts must come from congress. Read Constitution.