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Don't remove the cameras - make sure they're used legally and bad apples don't ruin a good thing: Four different places, four different children rescued by use

Don't remove the cameras - make sure they're used legally and bad apples don't ruin a good thing: Four different places, four different children rescued by use of Flock cameras. https://kfdm.com/news/local/flock-camera-teamwork-credited-with-rescue-of-missing-child-arrest-of-suspect https://kfdm.com/news/local/flock-camera-teamwork-credited-w... https://www.foxcarolina.com/2026/07/31/kidnapped-mother-son-rescued-with-help-flock-cameras-upstate-deputies-say/ https://www.foxcarolina.com/2026/07/31/kidnapped-mother-son-... https://www.whsv.com/2026/08/01/deputy-uses-flock-cameras-find-missing-girl-less-than-30-minutes/ https://www.whsv.com/2026/08/01/deputy-uses-flock-cameras-fi... https://abc3340.com/news/local/moody-police-say-flock-cameras-helped-find-missing-13-year-old-safe-after-reported-kidnapp https://abc3340.com/news/local/moody-police-say-flock-camera... Want to track latest on what flock cameras did? https://flockstopscrime.com https://flockstopscrime.com

FeepingCreature 23d ago
Why not the other way around? First make sure the police department is capable of using them legally and reliably investigating abuse, then we can consider allowing them.
chuckadams 23d ago
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- wateralien 23d ago
  > make sure they're used legally and bad apples don't ruin a good thing The unedited comment shows he used it correctly using “and” to mean “so that”.
  - chuckadams 23d ago
    Ah, indeed that is the more likely reading. I stand by the boot bit.
zapataband1 23d ago
"bad apples" = one rotten apple ruins the bunch. There are no "good apples" the article itself shows that other "apples" were helping him illegaly surveil. The "good apples" thought it was a good idea to give every apple access to a problematic system. There are no good apples if there's a rotten in the bunch, we need public oversight of the only people that are allowed to enact violence on behalf of the state.
kotaKat 23d ago
Nice shitty astroturfing campaign, bro. How much does Flock provide in payola? Five figures and I'll start singing the praises, too, bro.
aprilthird2021 23d ago
But we decided as a country long long long ago that we wouldn't abet abuse, unwarranted search and seizure, and would treat people as innocent until proven guilty even if that meant elevated crime was the price to pay for that
oh_my_goodness 23d ago
Absolutely. First let's install an extreme surveillance state and give them full police power unlimited by the Constitution. Then, later, if we have any regrets, no problem. Just restore democracy.
basilikum 23d ago
Don't remove freedom from society - Be kind to people and give them equal opportunities to make sure they use their freedom for good. Prosecute bad apples with actual police work and don't let them ruin a good thing. Want to track what people are doing all the time? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism#Treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism#Treatment

FeepingCreature 23d ago

Why not the other way around? First make sure the police department is capable of using them legally and reliably investigating abuse, then we can consider allowing them.

chuckadams 23d ago

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wateralien 23d ago
> make sure they're used legally and bad apples don't ruin a good thing The unedited comment shows he used it correctly using “and” to mean “so that”.
- chuckadams 23d ago
  Ah, indeed that is the more likely reading. I stand by the boot bit.

zapataband1 23d ago

"bad apples" = one rotten apple ruins the bunch. There are no "good apples" the article itself shows that other "apples" were helping him illegaly surveil. The "good apples" thought it was a good idea to give every apple access to a problematic system. There are no good apples if there's a rotten in the bunch, we need public oversight of the only people that are allowed to enact violence on behalf of the state.

kotaKat 23d ago

Nice shitty astroturfing campaign, bro. How much does Flock provide in payola? Five figures and I'll start singing the praises, too, bro.

aprilthird2021 23d ago

But we decided as a country long long long ago that we wouldn't abet abuse, unwarranted search and seizure, and would treat people as innocent until proven guilty even if that meant elevated crime was the price to pay for that

oh_my_goodness 23d ago

Absolutely. First let's install an extreme surveillance state and give them full police power unlimited by the Constitution. Then, later, if we have any regrets, no problem. Just restore democracy.

basilikum 23d ago

Don't remove freedom from society - Be kind to people and give them equal opportunities to make sure they use their freedom for good. Prosecute bad apples with actual police work and don't let them ruin a good thing. Want to track what people are doing all the time? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism#Treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyeurism#Treatment