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I've been trying to figure out why this piece sticks in my craw. I am, for all intents and purposes, Developer Guy. I'm analytical. I write code. I solve pr
by timr 14y ago
I've been trying to figure out why this piece sticks in my craw.
I am, for all intents and purposes, Developer Guy. I'm analytical. I write code. I solve problems, often with math. I've been "this way" my whole life. I've also been in many tens of thousands of conversations, with all kinds of people. Yet, despite having been in many conversations about everything and nothing at all, I've never been tempted to question my conversational partner's ability to reason analytically based on their decision to ask non-technical questions:
- If we talk about the weather, I assume we're making small talk.
- If we talk about family and friends, I assume that they want to talk about something with greater personal meaning.
- If we talk about their vintage peruvian bottle cap collection, I assume that they really like peruvian bottle caps.
Likewise, when someone comes up to me and asks me some very intense technical question, I don't assume that they aren't also evaluating my tone, posture, volume, poise, choice of words, etc. We're all human. It's all part of the game.
Sales Guy seems puzzled that Developer Guy isn't spending time on non-technical issues. But how does he know that? Is he assuming that Developer Guy doesn't care? Developer guy might just be intensely interested in sales guy's specific knowledge. It happens.
What strikes me about this writing is not that Developer Guy and Sales Guy are different, but that Sales Guy is reconciling a stereotype of Developer Guy with his actual experience. And that's bothersome.
- orangethirty 14y agoI've been trying to figure out why this piece sticks in my craw. Because it makes the Sales CEO (whatever the fuck that means) sound like a Douche CEO. If he can stereotype people from a conversation, I can surely stereotype him from a blog post. Though that also makes me a Douche CEO... In all seriousness, stop labeling people. Treat them as human beings. See the person behind the title. Most of the time, you will find someone who is geniunely smart, but absolutely has no fucking idea about what he/she is doing (like the rest of the world). Be it a sales person, a developer, a mechanic, nurse, lawyer, or a janitor. Human beings.
- sskates 14y agoWhat? Did we read the same post? I thought the post was about how the Developer CEO's approach was to get data points and the Sales Guy CEO's approach was to get a read on the other person. Where did you read that he thought Developer CEO's approach was not as good as Sales Guy CEO's approach? Perhaps you're taking the line "he based the value of the meeting on the quality of the data" to mean that Developer CEO was evaluating Sales Guy CEO as a person based on the quality of his responses and that it's a social faux pas to do so. As I understand that line, he meant that the Developer CEO's objective was to get value out of the conversation by getting high quality data. FWIW, I'm Developer CEO and I do the exact same thing.