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Nope, it doesn't. No logic required, you can just build an LLM yourself, including post training. You'll see that predicting the next token isn't something the
by danielmarkbruce 1mo ago
Nope, it doesn't.
No logic required, you can just build an LLM yourself, including post training. You'll see that predicting the next token isn't something the model does or is optimized for in RLHF or RLVR. You can hand wave all you like, but you have never done it.
- grebc 1mo agoYes, no logic is necessary for LLM adherents we're all finding out. Carry on good soldier.
- danielmarkbruce 1mo agoIf you haven't built one, and don't understand how they work, why comment?
- grebc 1mo agoYou don't need to build a car to understand one. That you tie yourself up in knots of fancy acronyms instead of plain words and that your argument boils down to semantics of the word prediction, it's pretty clear what is up brother.
- danielmarkbruce 1mo agoLol, sure, just read a blog post and you'll understand how a car works....It's very simple....
- doc_ick 1mo agoJust like how reading a math book doesn’t teach you math, why do they make us read anyway? (Sarcasm) if reading a blog post didn’t teach someone how a car works how come it “can” work for next token predictors
- danielmarkbruce 1mo agoMine was sarcasm. People who actually understand cars have built them. Until you build something, you don't understand it.
- grebc 1mo agoNow you’re claiming people don’t understand unless they build something. Boy, oh boy, do you keep digging your logic hole that much deeper. As mentioned earlier, Sam thanks you for your obfuscation efforts while his equity keeps going up. The swindle continues.
- danielmarkbruce 1mo agoI'm not the one hiding behind a fake name. If you want to understand how this stuff works, there are totally decent books about building them from scratch. It's not that hard, and you'll likely find it interesting. Sebastian Raschka and Nathan Lambert have good books out, and the Allen Institute has available all the code and data they have used for several projects.
- grebc 1mo agoNow a fake name accusation is thrown by someone with three first names. Keep digging that hole, I’m sure you’ll surface somewhere with some sunshine.
- _superposition_ 29d agoLol isn't this what llms do? Did you not just undermine your entire argument?