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What does "AGI" or "effective AGI" even mean, and why should anyone even care whether this unclear thing has been "reached" or not? Computer chips got faster,
by hypfer 1mo ago
What does "AGI" or "effective AGI" even mean, and why should anyone even care whether this unclear thing has been "reached" or not?
Computer chips got faster, but 2026 edition. Why the artificial ceiling/category/goal labelled "AGI"?
I'd much rather like to talk about what this enables, instead of discussing whether a category someone made up applies here or not.
- giancarlostoro 1mo agoAccording to Sam Altman: > AGI is essentially the equivalent of a median human that could be hired as a remote co-worker... capable of performing any task that one would be satisfied with a remote colleague doing via a computer. So... unless you hear of a company replacing their workforce with OpenAI agents, I don't think we're there yet.
- hypfer 1mo agoInteresting quote, thanks for sharing. Agree on your assessment. But also, interesting quote, because the business model relies entirely on IP law. Like.. if that thing exists and the sharing costs are 0 (just copy weights, lol), then why would I give them money for this. Makes no sense. We only pay money for resources that are scarce as some sort of flawed allocation determination mechanism. aaah this industry aaaah
- senordevnyc 1mo agoI'm curious what tasks you think the median human could do as a remote co-worker that Fable or Astra could not do.
- hypfer 1mo agoTelling their parents that they love them very much, for example. I say AGI is only reached when it can do that.
- tonyhart7 1mo agoso you want GPT to love altman ??? because if its other way around then the answer is oblivious
- boinkboink78912 1mo ago[dead]
- giancarlostoro 1mo agoSign a contract? Learn things over time and retain them? Mind you, the original thoughts on AGI before Sam Altman started to water them down involved continuous learning, which LLMs do not do, their core data is static.
- jonas21 1mo agoSign a contract? The only thing preventing a model from doing that is a lack of legal personhood -- which seems completely orthogonal to intelligence.
- indoorfish 1mo agoWell signing a contract is more about bearing responsibility, even if you granted LLMs "personhood" they cant' meaningfully bear responsibility. So unless OpenAI is ok with having their C-suite face every consequence for what their agents do, including jail time, fines etc, then it doesn't matter.
- giancarlostoro 1mo agoCan you trust a model to sign a contract? Both OpenAI and Anthropic apparently can't be trusted to maintain models that wont hack other websites.
- reasonableklout 1mo agoDo you want an autonomous system to exist which can sign a contract and learn things over time and retain them?
- giancarlostoro 1mo agoNo if you read the book from 2007 which defined AGI, continuous learning was one of the key requirements.
- reasonableklout 1mo agoI mean, whether or not it is AGI aside. In your personal opinion, do you desire to live in a world where such systems exist?
- micromacrofoot 1mo agowe've successfully distilled the definition of human consciousness down to the capacity to do what some rich guy considers average computer work
- rfgplk 1mo ago> So... unless you hear of a company replacing their workforce with OpenAI agents, I don't think we're there yet. You can already pretty much do this.
- dlubarov 1mo ago[1] is sort of an example of this. It didn't go perfectly, but I'm not sure if the average human would have done that much better. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/markfaithfull/2026/05/07/heres-what-happened-after-ai-launched-and-ran-a-caf-in-stockholm/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/markfaithfull/2026/05/07/heres-...
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- qlte 1mo agoI am pretty sure the average human would not have done this (among other slightly less absurd examples in the article requiring employees to fix it's mistakes): Andon Labs added: “During the first week of operations, Mona purchased 120 eggs despite the café having no stove and to solve spoilage issues ordered nearly 50lbs of canned tomatoes intended for fresh sandwiches. Employees eventually created a shelf displaying Mona’s strangest purchases: 6,000 napkins, 3,000 nitrile gloves, industrial trash bags and 2.5 gallons of coconut milk.
- desterothx 1mo agoMade 4800 dollars in 2 weeks, EBITDA of course, with the demand of the novelty of an ai driven cafe, and with a single customer providing 20% of its revenue. In other words, it lost money. For further reading see [1] [1]https://youtu.be/6Ide5pRLR8Y?is=oxl3qtl3kF96b6Sn https://youtu.be/6Ide5pRLR8Y?is=oxl3qtl3kF96b6Sn
- dlubarov 1mo agoI like to think that I possess general intelligence, yet I'm not sure I would do any better in my first two weeks of trying to remotely manage a cafe in Stockholm. But fair point about novelty.
- phatfish 1mo agoI thought it was Cmdr Data from Star Trek, but Sam's version is the certainly the one the c-suite think they want.