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It is great to see another player introduce a fully open stack. Nvidia's Nemotron is the only other prominent one I know of. All that said, the headline claims
by a11r 29d ago
It is great to see another player introduce a fully open stack. Nvidia's Nemotron is the only other prominent one I know of.
All that said, the headline claims do not match the self-reported performance. For example, the dense 32B model is significantly behind Qwen3.8 27B (chart towards the bottom of https://ifm.ai/blog/k2 https://ifm.ai/blog/k2). Gemma4 31B is not in the comparison set. This is the most important sweet spot for self hosted open-weight models today and real competition here will be very welcome.
- xienze 29d agoThey have the 32B listed as "stage 1" with the note "final checkpoint to be released." So, not finished yet. Not sure why you'd release it if it's not finished, but that's the explanation. The 7B does look very, very good however.
- WithinReason 29d ago32B performs worse than the 7B model so I'm sure they will improve it
- bluejay2387 29d agoIn this case, the fully open source pipeline is probably as valuable or more so than the weights, so releasing early has some justification.
- baron3dl 29d agohttps://allenai.org/ https://allenai.org/ has the fully open olmo also