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We were rescued from that dot org scam by the fact that ICANN is a California non profit. I wonder if the AG can lean on them again. This is an outrageous thing

by arjie 1mo ago

We were rescued from that dot org scam by the fact that ICANN is a California non profit. I wonder if the AG can lean on them again. This is an outrageous thing to do.

MagicMoonlight 1mo ago
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patcon 1mo ago
This is the comment I was looking for. Thank you
zamadatix 1mo ago
MagicMoonlight was [dead]ed for not knowing what "dot org scam" refers to. Since I can't reply there right now and it's not reasonable to expect everyone to know what this refers to: ICANN, a 501(c)(3), proposed to remove the price cap on .org registration, commonly used for non profits, so PIR, the 501(c)(3) registrar for .org, could then announce it planned to sell .org operations to private equity investment firm Ethos Capital. Thankfully the overwhelming response caused the proposal to be scrapped.
- NewJazz 1mo ago
  MM looks to be shadowbanned, I don't think anyone downed/flagged their comment.
  - shagie 1mo ago
    Going back through history... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48426337 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48426337 was apparently the final straw.
  - zamadatix 1mo ago
    Ah, good catch! I suppose I should check the comment history page before assuming why :)
- crossroadsguy 1mo ago
  > MagicMoonlight was [dead]ed for not knowing what "dot org scam" refers to. This is a very hn thing (shadow-banned accounts should not be able to comment though and should be treated differently than "dead" because I could see the comment). I was accused by a fellow hn'er just a few days back I was performing ignorance because I didn't know something very US specific legal term and had asked in a sub thread. Another person said I could just google that, or ask an AI. Coming back to the scam - it's bizarre to think ICANN could begin to do that! TLDs are such a basic aspect of online identity today and just to think that an outrage, i.e an overwhelming response, caused the proposal to be scrapped, is unsettling. I am not sure but we should rather move to something else or remove this power from such for profit companies or non-profits that often behave worse than for profits, or at the behest of them.
donmcronald 1mo ago
> ICANN is a California non profit I wonder how long that'll last. If the regulators in Califonrnia keep forcing them to act in the public's interest, won't they just move to a more favorable jurisdiction?
- NewJazz 1mo ago
  This crossed my mind too. At least such a move could serve as an indication to the international community that ICANN is not a good steward of name and number resources. If they're paying attention. I know our (the US) governance is full of crap like this.

by arjie 1mo ago

We were rescued from that dot org scam by the fact that ICANN is a California non profit. I wonder if the AG can lean on them again. This is an outrageous thing to do.

MagicMoonlight 1mo ago

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patcon 1mo ago

This is the comment I was looking for. Thank you

zamadatix 1mo ago

MagicMoonlight was [dead]ed for not knowing what "dot org scam" refers to. Since I can't reply there right now and it's not reasonable to expect everyone to know what this refers to: ICANN, a 501(c)(3), proposed to remove the price cap on .org registration, commonly used for non profits, so PIR, the 501(c)(3) registrar for .org, could then announce it planned to sell .org operations to private equity investment firm Ethos Capital. Thankfully the overwhelming response caused the proposal to be scrapped.

NewJazz 1mo ago
MM looks to be shadowbanned, I don't think anyone downed/flagged their comment.
- shagie 1mo ago
  Going back through history... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48426337 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48426337 was apparently the final straw.
- zamadatix 1mo ago
  Ah, good catch! I suppose I should check the comment history page before assuming why :)
crossroadsguy 1mo ago
> MagicMoonlight was [dead]ed for not knowing what "dot org scam" refers to. This is a very hn thing (shadow-banned accounts should not be able to comment though and should be treated differently than "dead" because I could see the comment). I was accused by a fellow hn'er just a few days back I was performing ignorance because I didn't know something very US specific legal term and had asked in a sub thread. Another person said I could just google that, or ask an AI. Coming back to the scam - it's bizarre to think ICANN could begin to do that! TLDs are such a basic aspect of online identity today and just to think that an outrage, i.e an overwhelming response, caused the proposal to be scrapped, is unsettling. I am not sure but we should rather move to something else or remove this power from such for profit companies or non-profits that often behave worse than for profits, or at the behest of them.

donmcronald 1mo ago

> ICANN is a California non profit I wonder how long that'll last. If the regulators in Califonrnia keep forcing them to act in the public's interest, won't they just move to a more favorable jurisdiction?

NewJazz 1mo ago
This crossed my mind too. At least such a move could serve as an indication to the international community that ICANN is not a good steward of name and number resources. If they're paying attention. I know our (the US) governance is full of crap like this.