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Most likely outcome seems to be that this period will be over very quickly, and we will have better writing than ever before, forever. We should probably put s

Most likely outcome seems to be that this period will be over very quickly, and we will have better writing than ever before, forever. We should probably put some more thought toward that part and what it will mean.

rwmj 1mo ago
Those people will stop really understanding anything because they defer all their writing (and so thinking) to machines. They will get stupider and stupider.
gizmo686 1mo ago
Why is that the most likely outcome? The history of automation is filled with cases where the result has been lower quality goods at lower prices.
- pixl97 1mo ago
  Yea, this is definitely a place where the positive future outlooks have to state why. The cost for text generation will trend toward zero. The amount of models that will be able to generate text will keep expanding making what text is generated or not will become more difficult. The way actual humans write will change because of influence by AI mushing up what is human and what is not human further increasing the impossibility of determining what is AI and what is not. Freedom of speech laws in the US will shoot down any broad legal requirements to mark text as AI generated or not. The consumer financial incentives to go to the 'better' and more expensive products are questionable at best. People consuming a lot of shitty shit because it's cheap is a pretty standard human behavior. It doesn't mean good products won't exist. It means good products will have to do a shit load of work to stand above and beyond the slop, and with systems like the US, these better products are apt to be bought by VC to exploit as much money out of the product by turning it into slop and getting rid of the human assets behind it. Also.. You only notice 'slop', not necessarily things that are written by AI (or lazy humans).
- DrewADesign 1mo ago
  > Why is that the most likely outcome? Listen, very smart people are very enthusiastic about other very smart people using AI to help AI learn to fix AI. Pretty much open-and-shut, IMO.
nxc18 1mo ago
Why do you think that? We’ve had this exact problem since the GPT3 moment and it has not improved at all. Not even a little, unlike agentic coding. Why do we expect a horizontal line to suddenly go exponential? Also, it seems that writing encodes far more information about personality and mental state of the writer than it seems at first glance. A key problem is that machine-generated writing does not have this, it is obvious that it doesn’t have this, and there is no path towards fixing it.
- jstummbillig 1mo ago
  What exact problem? Verbosity? Quality?
  - gonzalohm 1mo ago
    The quality is eroded by the verbosity
    - jstummbillig 1mo ago
      I have no idea how one would have to slice their data to conclude that GPT 5.6 is not a significantly better writer than GPT 3.
- ahhssja 1mo ago
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odie5533 1mo ago
We're coming up on 4 years into the AI-slop season of the internet. Just one more year and then we all go extinct?

rwmj 1mo ago

Those people will stop really understanding anything because they defer all their writing (and so thinking) to machines. They will get stupider and stupider.

gizmo686 1mo ago

Why is that the most likely outcome? The history of automation is filled with cases where the result has been lower quality goods at lower prices.

pixl97 1mo ago
Yea, this is definitely a place where the positive future outlooks have to state why. The cost for text generation will trend toward zero. The amount of models that will be able to generate text will keep expanding making what text is generated or not will become more difficult. The way actual humans write will change because of influence by AI mushing up what is human and what is not human further increasing the impossibility of determining what is AI and what is not. Freedom of speech laws in the US will shoot down any broad legal requirements to mark text as AI generated or not. The consumer financial incentives to go to the 'better' and more expensive products are questionable at best. People consuming a lot of shitty shit because it's cheap is a pretty standard human behavior. It doesn't mean good products won't exist. It means good products will have to do a shit load of work to stand above and beyond the slop, and with systems like the US, these better products are apt to be bought by VC to exploit as much money out of the product by turning it into slop and getting rid of the human assets behind it. Also.. You only notice 'slop', not necessarily things that are written by AI (or lazy humans).
DrewADesign 1mo ago
> Why is that the most likely outcome? Listen, very smart people are very enthusiastic about other very smart people using AI to help AI learn to fix AI. Pretty much open-and-shut, IMO.

nxc18 1mo ago

Why do you think that? We’ve had this exact problem since the GPT3 moment and it has not improved at all. Not even a little, unlike agentic coding. Why do we expect a horizontal line to suddenly go exponential? Also, it seems that writing encodes far more information about personality and mental state of the writer than it seems at first glance. A key problem is that machine-generated writing does not have this, it is obvious that it doesn’t have this, and there is no path towards fixing it.

jstummbillig 1mo ago
What exact problem? Verbosity? Quality?
- gonzalohm 1mo ago
  The quality is eroded by the verbosity
  - jstummbillig 1mo ago
    I have no idea how one would have to slice their data to conclude that GPT 5.6 is not a significantly better writer than GPT 3.
ahhssja 1mo ago
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odie5533 1mo ago

We're coming up on 4 years into the AI-slop season of the internet. Just one more year and then we all go extinct?