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There's no way text watermarking isn't causing a degradation in writing quality.
by bilalq 1mo ago
There's no way text watermarking isn't causing a degradation in writing quality.
- AareyBaba 1mo agoText watermarking will surely cause a degradation in quality writing. There's is no text watermarking that doesn't cause a decline in writing quality. Writing quality will surely deteriorate if text watermarking is implemented.
- chrisra 1mo agoMaybe this is silly: what about zero-width spaces or other hidden characters? Add them in post-processing, and the response quality doesn't degrade (though rendering etc. might be wonky).
- throwuxiytayq 1mo agoYes, it is silly. Stripping these is about as trivial as removing "this post was written by Claude" appended in plaintext. You could make a clipboard monitor that does this as soon as you CTRL+C, it's a 1-shot prompt. Not to mention that these wonky Unicode chars will break in every other program. Stripping Anthropic's watermarking, however, is more difficult - probably about 2 prompts.
- mrheosuper 1mo agoBut your average joe won't "setup custom clipboard monitor to auto clip out whitespace". That's why Gemini still include its logo into generated picture even if it's trivial to crop it out
- throwuxiytayq 1mo agoOk, sounds like a watermark of “this post was written by Claude” is sufficient then. Or don’t add any at all - the average joe is that Canadian politician whose speech included “here is a more natural-flowing version of that section that sounds more like legislative speech rather than a series of short points.”
- hugo1789 1mo agoThat would be so much worse. Code written that doesn't work, SQL that couldn't be parsed, ...
- roosterIllusi0n 1mo agoThe real problem is false positives. One false positives is enough to make the whole thing dangerous. The results can't really be acted upon without risking defamation. If you admit that you redistributed someone else's copyrighted work to an AI company that never forgets, it's an admission of distributing copyrighted works. The law should have at the very least required offline validation tools that cannot track or retain a copy of the documents being checked.
- fn-mote 1mo ago> offline validation tools As soon as the validator is available without a rate-limit, just apply input fuzzing to defeat it.
- Dylan16807 1mo agoA lot of random-ish numbers go into LLM output and there's a lot of room to hide signals in random-ish numbers.