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Claude watermarks are a farce and a waste of time. It's hilarious to me that they burn cash to even entertain the idea. Any attempts they use are defeated by a
by VCFundedGenYer 1mo ago
Claude watermarks are a farce and a waste of time. It's hilarious to me that they burn cash to even entertain the idea.
Any attempts they use are defeated by a text editor and CTRL SHIFT V. Unicode characters are no new thing.
Reminds me of how people tried to argue that NFTs aren't anything more than just jpegs.
- sente 1mo agoYou misunderstand how Claude watermarks things.
- DanielHB 1mo agoYes, but I also think it will be trivially by-passable if you pass your output through another LLM. At least for text. It might help catch students cheating, but not real spam-bot usage. As soon as platforms start checking for watermarks spambots will add anti-watermark passes.
- doc_ick 1mo agoI read through their earlier announcement, i don’t think it’ll be trivially by-passable without distorting the original message. I would agree it may not help spam-bot usage, however at this case seemingly the only user detection is likely an id/badge check, which is not good.
- capten 1mo agoImagine telling someone they're wrong without providing any evidence or context.
- dewey 1mo agoWelcome to the internet.
- mr_mitm 1mo agoTFA is talking about C2PA, a regular signature in the meta data. A lack thereof means nothing, but if it's there, the false positive rate should be near zero.
- basedpolymer 1mo agoMost critics of watermarking have no idea how it works. Yet there are valid arguments against (and for) it, but they prefer to be misleading
- dgellow 1mo agoWhat are the valid arguments against? Is it about the fact that the output isn’t “optimal”?
- basedpolymer 1mo agoRather, concerns related to user identification combined with copyright issues I don't believe it, but I still haven't seen any in-depth discussions on these issues